California Governor Gavin Newsom holds an early edge over Vice President JD Vance among young male voters for the 2028 presidency, according to new polling from a Republican-affiliated firm.
The latest League of American Workers/TIPP survey, conducted October 22-28, shows that among young men, 38 percent would vote for Newsom compared to 33 percent for Vance.
The findings suggest that Newsom—a prominent Democratic voice—continues to outperform expectations with a demographic that has trended toward the GOP in recent years. The results come amid renewed debate within both parties over how to win back young men, a group increasingly seen as pivotal to future national elections.
From the comments, it looks like a lot of people are willing to repeat the mistakes that got us Trump.
We’re so fucked.
Fuck Newsome. More of the same bullshit Dems that lost to Trump…
Why do young men have such bad taste in politicians? Jfc
Young people tend to have less experience and education. The younger you are, the less of both you have.
I think their plan is to run Buttigieg. He keeps making the rounds.
You’re assuming there’s an election in 2028.
And the rumors of a 6-8% shift in the electronic counts on the presidency are not from a corrupted “update” to software. (There’s rumors all over, no way to tell what’s real and what’s not, sadly).
Oh look it’s the same pattern that’s been happening my entire life.
I can’t wait for angry liberals to blame leftists for another historic loss after they choose to run Newsom against all reason.
If Newsom wins the nomination, he’ll probably win the general…
But that means he’d get to appoint a neoliberal as DNC chair, and they’re sure as shit not going to let a progressive get the nom in 2032, Newsom would run again. Then he’d be out or name a new DNC chair again…
And 2036 we won’t get a fair primary either.
We can’t afford to go back
I don’t care if you’re a lifetime green party voter, anyone that considers themselves left of the Dem party still needs to vote in Dem primaries to drag the party left.
There aren’t even Green primaries. You lose nothing voting in the Dem primary, and are not obligated to anything in the general.
Americans are so brainwashed that they think Newsom is some kind of hard core left winger as opposed to the truth that he’s only slightly less social conservative than Hillary Clinton.
He’s also very much a fiscal conservative. I don’t think the Prop 13 limited budgets in California really allow anyone to do anything major without years of congressional battles.
He’s basically Hillary, but California, yes.
Yeah, he is only as socially liberal as his ambitions allow. He was in favor of same sex marriage ahead of the DNC when he was mayor of San Francisco. Now he’s in favor of platforming bigots to increase his popularity.
Platforming bigots? I missed that part.
Vance is the lowest possible bar you could compare him to…
That’s good, Gavin needs a low bar or else he won’t clear it…
I used to think Newsome was possibly a psychopath, and I still do, and I thought it might hurt him in a national contest, compared to a “home town boy” like JD, on account of relatability, but now I think it might be the opposite, or at least also true that JD is too relatable for his own good…We know a little too well who he is…
He’s the bosses dickhead kid. You know, the one that would get drunk and tear around in his dad’s boat like an asshole with his other rich dick friends, got in trouble for that awful wreck in high school but nobody ever heard what came of it? Damn shame about that guy and his daughter. Yeah, he’s one that turned a wrench in the shop for a couple weeks but it wasn’t for him, the oil and solvents and whatnot, too hard on his hands. He went off to college for a few years, came back and took over the manager job his dad’s been promising you for a few years. Now he’s your boss, and he just cut your hours. Happy Thanksgiving.
That’s fuckin’ JD Vance.
Don’t run Newsom. Run AOC
Democratic primary is going to be INTERESTING. God I hope we don’t fuck this up.
While I would love AOC, she would be the youngest by quite a bit. Plus, she probably needs to win something more than a house seat. It is great having a party leader that is so young.
The problem with the party leadership route is that party insiders are the only ones who get to vote on it, and when that’s the electorate she can’t even beat Gerry Nadler. If she can run in a race with real people voting on it I think she could beat anyone.
Why? Explain why.
Copy and pasting from my other comment
Her highest accomplishment is being a House of Representatives member. This is incredibly rare. Most people that become president have been elected in a statewide election, or had military, or were a part of the office in some way already (VP, secretary, etc).
To go from being a House of Representatives member to being president is a massive uphill battle.
I hope she runs and joins other democrats on the debate stage. It would raise her profile in a big way. She would have my vote for sure. But I would not get my hopes up simply cause of her experience level.
It’ll be Harris all over again. JD sucks but in no way would I be enthusiastic about voting for Newsom.
I was not and would not be enthusiastic about voting for Harris - but I would vote for her.
I straight up would not vote for Newsom.
Anyone but Newsom. Please.
So far I think he’s better than Hillary Clinton. I also don’t really know what he stands for.
He stands for corporations as far as I can tell. Occasionally he is on the right side of things, seemingly on accident.
In what way, though? Everybody stands for corporations in some way.
He’ll nit support cost of living, depressed wages, and will continue to offer tax breaks to the wealthy. Maybe he throws LGB people a bone, but he will absolutely make sure trans people get shafted. He’s a corporate Dem when what the Dems actually need to be doing to helping working people.
Is this all based on things he’s actually done as a governor or proposed? Or just the vibes he puts out?
As for giving trans people the shaft. I think this is just exaggerations people make online. He came out against trans athletes joining sports of their gender. But that’s an issue 66% of Americans agree with. It hardly means he doesn’t support trans people.
I’d prefer him over Harris I think, but wouldn’t be very happy with either
I think there’s no way in hell Harris would win a democratic nomination. The stink left on her from losing to Trump will be very hard to overcome.
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Not sure what this means, honestly. She hasn’t won a democratic primary yet, but has lost to a historically unpopular candidate. While also sharing the stage with conservatives. I just don’t think she’ll be able to shake that.
They do say that llms don’t actually understand anything so that tracks
Newsom is infinitely more likely to get elected in a national election unless we suddenly develop class consciousness.
Dumbest shit I’ve heard in a while. She would be a great candidate, but to quote back to the future " I guess you guys weren’t ready for that yet. But your kids are gonna love it’
Call it dumb, but Newsom is one candidate that voting for would violate my moral code. If it’s Newsom vs Trump or Newsom vs Vance, I am staying home.
I am literally begging democrats to run someone I can vote for. Doesn’t have to be a good candidate, just has to be someone that’s not Newsom
President Vance it is, then.
There are Democrats not named Newsom.
If Democrats choose to run him anyway, then I guess we’ll have President Vance, yes.
This is the same stupid logic that got us Kavanaugh. There has to be more than one eligible person, yet they insist on pushing one of the worst possible candidates.
Are you saying Newsom is the last standing Democrat available to run for President? Because I disagree.
Oh, shut up.
Like the other guy said: shut up.
I defo think we should run AOC over Newsom. That said, people staying home because voting for the lesser of two evils “violated their moral code” is how we ended up in our current situation. It is unbelievably selfish to prefer to say “at least my hands are clean” as the world grows drastically darker due to your inaction. I really hope we get to vote for AOC in 2028, but if we don’t, then I am begging you to do some reflection and change your attitude.
It’s not lesser of the two evils for me. Newsom strikes me as a smarter Trump seen through a Democratic curtain instead of a Republican one.
Voting for Biden and Harris were voting for the lesser of the two evils. Voting for Newsom is not. That’s how strongly I feel about Newsom.
While I would enthusiastically vote for AOC, it doesn’t have to be AOC to get my vote. Hell, id vote Whitmer - and she gives me slimy vibes.
It’s strange to me that we’re agitating for voters to change and not our leaders. It’s fewer people you have to convince.
We’re doing both. Mamdani and the new DNC leadership are proof of this. Please don’t turn this into a false dichotomy; voter apathy still needs to be challenged at every turn, along with demanding better of our leadership.
No, that’s a great point of view. If someone offers you 40% of what you want, and the other person offers you 0%, and wants you to become a slave, the only natural choice is to not support either of them, because you can’t get 100% of what you want…
As I say at work fairly often, the chances of something going from a state of complete disarray to complete perfection, overnight, is essentially zero. But even if you go from 1% of what you want to 2%, that’s still an order of magnitude better than the status quo.
When faced with a choice of no improvement, or slight improvement, it hardly ever makes sense to choose no improvement, unless there’s some massive cost involved for a barely noticable gain.
If she wins the primary then all bets are off. That would mean she ran enough of a good campaign that big money didn’t matter.
Yes, Gavin is a way better conservative than the couch fucker, but that ain’t saying much.
we need a leftist to run ffs
