Since Trump’s election, gun groups catering to progressives and people of color report a surge in interest as they look to defend themselves in a country that, to them, feels increasingly unstable.

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    3 months ago

    Don’t be a fool. Everyone in America has guns or access to them. It’s trivial to buy one and many on the left own them all the same as anyone else.

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      3 months ago

      Thats a nice lie that left/center leaning people keep telling themselves.

      The reality is that republicans by far have a higher percentage of gun owners.

      If there were a fight that started today, there would be a sweep.

      Then you have to remember that every force of violence in the US, LEOs, all branches of military, all support trump.

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        3 months ago

        Then you have to remember that every force of violence in the US, LEOs, all branches of military, all support trump.

        So, what kind of gun can I buy that will let me defend myself from a tyrannical reaper drone?

        Or maybe planning to fight your enemy where he is strongest is fucking dumb?

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          3 months ago

          A gun does not defend you from a drone. It defends you from other people who are emboldened to commit crimes against you.

          The point later in the comment is about what happens if the government fully turns in the citizens. Protecting yourself is midway to that.

          You basically can’t let it get that far or you’re just cooked.

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            3 months ago

            It defends you from other people who are emboldened to commit crimes against you.

            No, it doesn’t defend you. At best, it will give you a chance to shoot back. Statistically speaking, the person you are most likely to use a gun on is yourself, second most likely victim of your gun is your spouse.

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              3 months ago

              That’s nice, but those statistics are from a different time with a different threat profile.

              We are long done with pretending we’re living in a reasonable society.

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                3 months ago

                Actually, about 27,000 people in the US committed suicide by gun last year, compared to 16,000 non-suicide gun deaths, and apparently the gun suicide to gun deaths ratio actually went up from 2023.

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                  3 months ago

                  Did you not at all read my comment?

                  I knew the stats before you mentioned them, I’m pointing out there are clear differences to society right now that make this data far less relevant.

                  Your actually implies you’re arguing against an argument I’ve made but you aren’t at all.

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                    3 months ago

                    Ah, so you think (without any evidence) that the trend suddenly and drastically reversed itself in the last 10 months and no one bothered to report on it?

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          If the full force of the FBI, military, and local law enforcement turns against the citizenry the citizenry is cooked.

          Hopefully our fellow citizens will balk at killing their neighbors, but if they don’t, shotguns and handguns are only useful to increase the cost of enforcement on the gestapo.

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            3 months ago

            They didn’t balk when their neighbors were being rounded up by the new gestapo and shipped off to extra-national slave prison camps.