Anyone notice what these “non-professional” degrees have in common?

Nursing
Physician assistants
Physical therapists
Audiologists
Architects
Accountants
Educators
Social workers

Here’s a hint, look at the two least obvious ones:

43% of new architects are women:

https://www.ncarb.org/blog/new-architects-are-increasingly-diverse-explore-updated-demographics-data

And 60% of all accountants:

https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/accountant/demographics/

This is clearly a plan to minimize career paths for women.

Edit What the heck, lets check the rest of them…

92% of audiologists are women:

https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/audiologist/demographics/

88.8% of nurses:

https://www.aacnnursing.org/news-data/fact-sheets/nursing-workforce-fact-sheet

75% of physician assistants:

https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/physician-assistant/demographics/

70% of physical therapists:

https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/physical-therapist/demographics/

77% of educators:

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/24/key-facts-about-public-school-teachers-in-the-u-s/

81% of social workers:

https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/social-worker/demographics/

  • RubberElectrons@lemmy.world
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    It has also been reported that engineering, a business master’s, counseling or therapy, and speech pathology will not be considered “professional” either.

    Engineering is not professional? What a laughable sack of shit. We’re going to have a lot of work ahead to undo this damage.

    I look forward to improving our systems better than they’d previously been when trump and project 2025 showed up.

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      This is actually the one that I would agree with (edit: see below), if the difference is “professional” vs. “academic.” I certainly wouldn’t call a natural science degree professional, and if you’re in a research institution studying some form of engineering I’d probably put you in the same category. Just my experience/opinion though (and the rest of the exclusions are super stupid, I agree).

      Edit: from the replies, this is referring to Professional Engineering; in my corner of the world, “Engineer” is an overloaded term that generally means electrical, mechanical, software, and sometimes computer engineer. My comment was referring to these engineers, who are rarely licensed and study alongside scientists in school. I completely agree with parent in the context of “professional engineering” (I mean…it’s right there in the name…).

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        Engineers are literally required to licensed by the state as “Professional Engineers” in order to do their job (or at least they have to be supervised by someone who is), just like doctors and lawyers are. If that doesn’t count as professional, WTF does?!

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        I’m a state-licensed engineer, a professional engineer

        Even if your other points were valid, this has direct impact on people’s income for years after they graduate.

        I’ll go further and point out that in general, we need art as well as science, not one vs the other.

        E: No dude, look at how the word is defined: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/professional, licensed or not, engineering or any degree requiring training is professional.