Anyone notice what these “non-professional” degrees have in common?
Nursing
Physician assistants
Physical therapists
Audiologists
Architects
Accountants
Educators
Social workers
Here’s a hint, look at the two least obvious ones:
43% of new architects are women:
https://www.ncarb.org/blog/new-architects-are-increasingly-diverse-explore-updated-demographics-data
And 60% of all accountants:
https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/accountant/demographics/
This is clearly a plan to minimize career paths for women.
Edit What the heck, lets check the rest of them…
92% of audiologists are women:
https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/audiologist/demographics/
88.8% of nurses:
https://www.aacnnursing.org/news-data/fact-sheets/nursing-workforce-fact-sheet
75% of physician assistants:
https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/physician-assistant/demographics/
70% of physical therapists:
https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/physical-therapist/demographics/
77% of educators:
81% of social workers:
https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/social-worker/demographics/
Thanks for looking this data up. I think you’re absolutely right on this.
Seriously? Architect? Accountant? What exactly does the distinction professional even mean then?
Professional… When you do it for a living and can live off doing it then you’re a professional.
Hookers are professional at sexual pleasures. Porn starts are professional at making sex videos. One could argue that these are not the same. Yet both are professions in my opinion.
I really like the etymology of the word.
Thus, as people became more and more specialized in their trade, they began to ‘profess’ their skill to others, and ‘vow’ to perform their trade to the highest known standard. With a reputation to uphold, trusted workers of a society who have a specific trade are considered professionals.
-Wikipedia
Yeah I get that, but obviously in the context given here that that definition doesn’t fit what they’re trying to say. Like what is THEIR working definition of profession they’re using where such things as nurses cannot be referred to as professionals?
What’s the consequences of this for those in those careers?
FTA:
“This means that those doing high-costing degrees, who may no longer receive the same amount as their degree may not be deemed “professional,” could financially struggle to cover the costs—which could deter students from choosing to pursue those high-demand careers.”
At this point whatever Trump dies of is suicide.
I sure hope it’s the kind of suicide somw people commit by shooting themselves 3 times in the back of the head
Fuck that I want to celebrate the hero that ends this psycho shit
Nursing is a no, but theology is a yes.
They’re rolling back women’s lib, one step at a time. We had 50 years. We weren’t even there yet and they’re taking it away from us.
I guess if you’re a theology major that’s like becoming a professional in make-believe.
I have nothing against soul searching for personal betterment. That’s cool. It’s bizarre that it’s considered “professional” when an accountant, nurse practitioner, and social worker are not.
I think that a person who has decided to major in Theology has already passed the point where they’re soul searching for the most part. They’ve already decided to dedicate a lot of time to studying the thing they’ve already decided is the answer.
Only if we let them. Make these bastards’ lives absolutely miserable.
Men who can’t handle their own feelings or learn to define themselves as individuals separate from a woman. And don’t have the wherewithal to enroll in therapy to figure it out.
That is MAGA. A reaction to women’s lib.
Audiologists? What do they have against people being able to hear? This isn’t a full list, right? Are ENTs not considered professionals too? Tell me dentists are also excluded. Optometrist? Is it really just this one specific doctor? I mean nurses are important, but I’ll admit that society does not respect them, or other non doctor medical professionals, as much. The only word I could think of to describe them in the last sentence was professional.
92% of audiologists are women:
https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/audiologist/demographics/
That is how the 1950s worked. Women were shut out of the workplace in favor of men due to the GI Bill.
It’s how we created a generation of angry, addicted, or tissue paper thin women, back in the day.
Honestly this seems correlative and not causal.
Yeah because historically this system has been very pro women. Just leave this thread, bud.
Until you look at all the other occupations. Updated the list.
The BBB got rid of direct plus loans starting 2026. Those are grad school loans that most people use to get any masters or fund PhDs that aren’t fully funded.
So.
Literally every masters degree is impossible now unless you are rich.
I kept telling people it was in the bbb but everyone was worried about the medicaid medicare cuts.
Whole university departments are going to close.
No more doctors. Nurses. Lawyers. Engineers.
No more master level degrees for anyone except Nepo babies.
That’s the plan in project 2025.
It has also been reported that engineering, a business master’s, counseling or therapy, and speech pathology will not be considered “professional” either.
Engineering is not professional? What a laughable sack of shit. We’re going to have a lot of work ahead to undo this damage.
I look forward to improving our systems better than they’d previously been when trump and project 2025 showed up.
This is actually the one that I would agree with (edit: see below), if the difference is “professional” vs. “academic.” I certainly wouldn’t call a natural science degree professional, and if you’re in a research institution studying some form of engineering I’d probably put you in the same category. Just my experience/opinion though (and the rest of the exclusions are super stupid, I agree).
Edit: from the replies, this is referring to Professional Engineering; in my corner of the world, “Engineer” is an overloaded term that generally means electrical, mechanical, software, and sometimes computer engineer. My comment was referring to these engineers, who are rarely licensed and study alongside scientists in school. I completely agree with parent in the context of “professional engineering” (I mean…it’s right there in the name…).
I’m a state-licensed engineer, a professional engineer…
Even if your other points were valid, this has direct impact on people’s income for years after they graduate.
I’ll go further and point out that in general, we need art as well as science, not one vs the other.
E: No dude, look at how the word is defined: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/professional, licensed or not, engineering or any degree requiring training is professional.
Engineers are literally required to licensed by the state as “Professional Engineers” in order to do their job (or at least they have to be supervised by someone who is), just like doctors and lawyers are. If that doesn’t count as professional, WTF does?!
This is exactly what our mess of a health care system needs … fewer nurses. This is exactly what our uneducated voter population needs … fewer educators. The downward spiral never ends.
As the boomers reach EOL… fewer nurses.
Who gives a flying fuck what this “man” or this regime says. He’s a traitorous bastard that should be dragged out of office and hung from the neck.
Anyone about to go to college, this classification will determine how much financial aid you’ll be eligible for.
There is no other term for this beyond treasonous sabotage of American interests.
Today I saw the new Wicked movie. Afterwards, as I usually do after a movie, I went to the bathroom and checked my phone to see if Trump was dead yet. If he died, I was going to yell “ding dong the witch is dead”, then I was going to come out of the stall and tell everyone in the bathroom that Trump was dead, then I was gonna play “no one mourns the wicked” on my phone
