Adam Schlesinger, a likely preventable death in this selfish fucking country. He gave so many beautiful things to the world while he was here.

Cowardice and boredom.

He’s likely completed his Hawaiian bunker fortress and, like a cop with a cold gun on his hip, reminding him everyday that he isn’t using it, he wants to start some shit so he can (he hopes) feel something. Similar to how the Christians want the end of the world, because their lives are empty and they want to see if they were right about the existence of a god. They’d end us all in a moment to satisfy their own selfish impulses

America has the attention span of…

What a god damn waste of time… Every breath this fucking idiot takes is a tragedy.

You’re argument hinges on a “both sides are the same” false premise. It’s just not true. January 6th was unprecedented in the 250 years of this country. Things are different, this is not the time historically for political posturing. This isn’t a Romney versus Obama election. Shit is fundamentally different and you’re likely operating from the muscle memory of a time when it was a more of a “polite disagreement”. This is the “grandpa sitting with an assault rifle at the polling place” timeline. Wake up.

Couch fuckin’, boot lickin’, normal human man.

Ha ha, good. So how long have you been reading this thread?

If you’re in a poorly made boat that has a hole in it with two other people…

And you are all actively sinking in that faulty boat, about to die in the middle of the ocean…

And one of the people states they will make more holes so you all drown…

And the other wants to work to keep the boat floating enough to get to shore, but not to your ideal…

Who do you help in that moment, or do you fold your hands and sink on principle? And you understand that sinking is not a neutral, moral victory here, because you’ve effectively supported the person who wanted to make more holes and sink the boat.

If you don’t get to shore, you won’t live to attempt to sue that horrible boat company to hold them accountable and keep others from using their faulty boats. And if you don’t help the person bailing out water, the person making more holes will kill you all with less effort.

The “people” above are to represent general philosophies of the two “sides” in this discussion, not individual candidates. There is no option to truly stay neutral here, direct action or willful inaction, both have impacts that you are responsible for.

What do you do?

Nobody thinks they are entitled to votes. This is about triage during an emergency.

To make it simple, let’s assign a number out of 100 - Likelihood that a second trump presidency enthusiastically and loudly helps Israel escalate and “finish” their genocide in Gaza: 98.9

Likelihood that post inauguration, a Harris presidency does something that doesn’t go as far as the above, but still does meaningful damage, just more quietly through diplomacy and weapons shipments: 32

Now it isn’t great that the Harris number isn’t zero, even negative, but the reasoning for her campaigns current position is likely a combination of election politics plus the vestiges of Biden’s outdated and misguided position on blind support for an Israel that’s in his mind and not in front of him.

So first up in a triage… You get Harris in because less likelihood for absolute annihilation. I’d then wager a likely softening at worst to full end of support at best once Biden and election are out of the active picture. Most importantly, we eject Harris because a Harris presidency will preserve your right to protest Harris. A second trump presidency likely leads to the end of American democracy and the freedoms Americans take for granted.

After a Harris admin victory she needs to be sworn in the following January, but on day one, I fully support that we FILL the streets across the country, a la Vietnam era protests. We block freeways and interrupt commerce until a Harris administration ends all US support of Israel’s genocide. We will have that right and that chance with Harris, you’ll get shot in the fucking eye and tackled into an unmarked minivan if you try that in a second trump administration.

Realize the weight of this decision, and listen to Stein’s own campaign telling you they are doing to get trump elected. Time to get WIDE awake and ADULT on the reality here.

Look at the username. This person has made their life about this perceived grievance. What a weird, hollow coward of a person.

“But you’re a 78 year old person running for president”

“Let’s watch me stand on stage and listen to music for 45 minutes”

Anything that helps legitimize trump (increase overall pop vote numbers, regardless of loss) or props up green party and stein with a stated intention to get trump elected, in fact “helps trump”

Considering a vote for Dr. Jill Stein? I’m open if you have some insight I’m missing, but in my experience the green party has some exciting ideas on the surface, as lip service, but the party doesn’t put in meaningful work in interim government outside of a presidential election cycle every 4 years. So it’s a meaningless party.

You may think, “I’m in a solid red or blue state where my vote can’t influence at the national level”, but I find it hard to support Green/Stein in any capacity with how blatantly Stein has, in my opinion, been knowingly running as a spoiler candidate. The Green party has a (now publicly stated) intention to have Harris lose Michigan specifically. Below is clip from a Stein rally in Dearborn, Michigan. A surrogate for Stein is about to introduce her and spells out their intentions very clearly during remarks,

"We are not in a position to win the White House, but we do have a real opportunity to win something historic… we could deny Kamala Harris the state of Michigan. And the polls show that most likely Harris cannot win the election without Michigan.”

I would ask anyone considering a vote for Stein, in any state, to consider that truth they speak openly - When they are admitting that they can’t win, stating a goal to defeat the Harris campaign and acknowledging that Harris likely cannot win the election without Michigan, the undeniable net of that is that they are working to directly secure a second trump presidency, in my opinion.

As I see it, we just cannot have it both ways in a two party system. If the green party was a serious movement working against two party politics (and I would personally embrace and support this) they would become THE platform for ranked choice voting with a green party candidate in every meaningful on/off year election to make that issue ubiquitous with green. They speak endlessly about the flawed two party system (with a clear bias towards shitting in dems), but in the current two party system we actually have, you can’t cast a protest vote without actually casting a vote for trump in this election - And that cannot be stated more clearly than this green party spokesperson states it at this event before Stein speaks.

Here is a link to direct feed of that green party rally in Dearborn Michigan if anyone wants to see first hand to consider. It’s a longer video, but it starts at the point discussed and surrogate makes the above quoted statement within about the first minute speaking. https://youtu.be/WKSm2FQ8z60?t=5153

And trump acknowledges as much directly mentioning Stein and green party campaign by name recently,

“Cornel West — he’s one of my favorite candidates, Cornel West,” Trump said. "And I like — I like her also. Jill Stein. I like her very much. You know why? She takes 100% from [Biden]. [West] takes 100%. Kennedy’s probably 50/50, but he’s a fake.”

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/trump-speech-jill-stein-cornel-west-rcna158627

I’ve heard individual positions I like from West, Stein and others in the past, but in my opinion if they aren’t fighting to be the bridge to engage the flawed structure of elections in this country as third parties, these are just campaigns driven more by individual candidate ego than a motivation for systemic change.

Those are my thoughts.

You give me hope, I’ve done the same.

Immigrant interfering with American elections

You misheard, they said “beacon of Fire Speech”. They burn books in that gathering of failed, divorced, didn’t even peak in high school but still peaked in high school chuds.

FEC is FECkless.

Capitalism hates a memory. Hates/fears anything it can’t update, whitewash or otherwise directly control or obscure after the fact.

If humanity had any hope, we’d surround this thing with torches to defend it tooth and nail.

AND continue to specifically highlight the ones who are going for the high score, like this fucking douche.

Former CEO, current inhumane grifter chud, Eric Schmidt, who has been featured in a recent series of “saying the quiet silicon valley executive thought out loud”

Can you support that please, I hadn’t heard.

Desantis is the strongest coward at the white leather boots with lifts store. Fucking loser.