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It puts a lot of features at the fingertips of the faithful, including the ability to filter whole neighborhoods by religion, ethnicity, “Hispanic country of origin,” “assimilation,” and whether there are children living in the household.
Its core function is to produce neighborhood maps and detailed tables of data about people from non-Anglo-European backgrounds, drawn from commercial sources typically used by marketing and data-harvesting firms.
training videos produced by users show the extent to which evangelical groups are using sophisticated ways to target non-Christian communities, with questionable safeguards around security and privacy.
In one instance, he points to the sharable note-taking function and suggests leaving information for each household, such as “Daughter left for college” and “Mother is in the hospital.”
increasingly popular among Christian supremacist groups, prayerwalking calls on believers to wage “violent prayer” (persistently and aggressively channeling emotions of hatred and anger against Satan), engage in “spiritual mapping” (identifying areas where evil is at work, such as the darkness ruling over an abortion clinic, or the “spirit of greed” ruling over Las Vegas), and conduct prayerwalking (roaming the streets in groups, “praying on-site with insight”).
newly arrived refugees might well find a knock on the door from strangers with knowledge of their personal circumstances distressing—and that’s before these surprise visitors even begin to attempt to convert them.
placing people of different ethnic and religious backgrounds on easy-to-access databases is a dangerous road to go down
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More like “Bless some homes, over others”
wonder if that’s how the folks that sell God keep finding me? I keep turning them away but they keep coming back
I sincerely hope that when they come to my door again, I am in the middle of carving up a side of beef, again. Last time some Mormons knocked on my door, I opened the door, and what they saw was a 6’3" blonde Viking with no shirt, a bloody carving knife, and wiping blood off my hands. When I saw who it was I yelled over my shoulder, (to an almost empty apartment,) “Hey guys, you can let the goat go! I just found us a couple of virgins!”
They retreated rather quickly.
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Even if it didn’t, what’s the point in spoiling the fun fantasy that it did? I choose to think of it happening fondly.
I love this comment lol
If you tell someone that they are trespassing and to leave and not come back. Can you make a citizens arrest if they return?
IANAL, but I don’t believe so. Most/all states have laws that allow people to access your property to come to your front door/porch, I forget the exact name, unless your property is fenced with clearly visible “private property/no trespassing” type signs.
However, once you’ve asked them to leave, they have to leave or they can be arrested/escorted away for trespassing should they refuse to and police become involved. In your example, if they were to come back after being asked to leave, I believe yes, but you couldn’t arrest them, the police would have to.
In that last case, where you have asked them to leave and not come back… but they do. There is a thing called a citizen’s arrest. Allowing nonpolice to make an arrest and detain a person. But what the law says and what you can do is often not the same. I just imagined haveing your doorbell record you saying to never come back, then slapping handcuffs on them if they do. Kinda sounds like fun.
Could be, but personally, I wouldn’t recommend it. While there are citizen’s arrest laws and I’m sure they’ve been used, I can’t think of any examples off the top of my head, and it appears each state has different standards that need to be met to constitute a “citizen’s arrest,” with some states not allowing/defining it.
Personally, my concern with attempting a citizen’s arrest would be doing so without meeting my state’s/country’s standard to do so. My state’s statute explicitly states it is a crime to illegally restrain someone against their will, and even states that doing so is skirting the line of kidnapping.
Having a kidnapping charge thrown at me doesn’t seem worth it for a jackass who doesn’t want to leave my property but isn’t doing anything else (like attempting to harm me or damage my property). I’d play it safe and just let the police handle it, their qualified immunity will let them do whatever they want and face no consequences anyway.
But again, IANAL, and YMMV, so do with all this as you will.
Yeah, wouldn’t be me. I have kids and no time for the disuption. I also don’t live in an area where I would have to worry about such things. But I would love to see someone who does test it. Might put a damper on these people.
So, in theory, The Satanic Temple could make an app to mark all the Christian households then. I wonder if they’d be interested in that.
I bet they have enough members in the field to have it built for free. Hell, if I was an app dev I would chip in on the project.
What do you mean? That app is already made, it’s the one mentioned in this post.
I suppose that app of theirs would work both ways 😂 But the temple app could open with a splash page of the Baphomet statue with the children.
Do you think if the Satanic Temple made a line-by-line copy of their app, but painted it black/red, the Evangelists would cry foul and complain about everything we’re complaining about?
What am i saying? Of course they would.
Imagine how upset they’d be to see their homes marked out in a “Satanic” app with notes like ‘has three young children’.
And a baby! Yummmm…
Wow, this is absolutely fucking horrific. I assume they’ve imported everything from Kiwi Farms incarnation too? Bunch of evil fucks.
I’m kinda sick of all’ the evil, actually. I get that it’s very popular but maybe it shouldn’t be? I’ll just live in my own mind until people pull their heads out, I guess 🤷 What could possibly go wrong.
Too bad none of these Christians follow a single teaching of Jesus. If he exists, he’s probably pissed about it.
It’s creepy that they are collecting data about us without our knowledge nor consent. And having strangers then telling us private details about ourselves.
I wonder how they would react if we did this to them.
The crowd of “I have nothing to hide” that also has the highest incidence of minor sexual assault, domestic violence, and infidelity? I think they think they’re talking to God who forgives whatever if you just say sorry and say a couple poems
Wow, the Christian app that lets you sort people by religion ALSO lets you sort them by race and ethnicity?
I am shocked. SHOCKED!
Well, not that shocked.
If my name, or the names of anyone I care about, is on the list it won’t be on for long.
Edit: they have virtually no security and it took me about a minute to see my neighborhood and see my address as well as half my block.
Mormons have been doing this for a while, but not quite at the creepy level as this.
Never seems like a good thing when a religious group starts counting
Funny you should mention that.
In the mythology of the bible, 2 Samuel 24 talks about how King David took a census of Israel, and it pissed god off so much that he killed 70,000 completely uninvolved Israelis over it, and would have killed more but he stopped when he got to Jerusalem.
And these modern day chuckleheads are doing it on purpose, lol. If only they believed a fraction of their own holy book, I would have the best time gladly explaining to them via scholarly biblical exegesis how and why they’re gonna DIE a nasty death if they do this.
If only. -sigh-
That’s such a weird passage. I can’t be understanding this correctly. God tells David to count the people. David sends his generals to count the people. They report the count back to David, who apologizes and says he sinned for doing what God told him to do? IDGI
Turns out there’s a lot of historical context. Also, whether it was God or Satan who influenced David is somewhat ambiguous thanks to quirks in translation.
Thanks!
Yeah. In a nutshell. The number of commentaries, old and new, formal and informal, asking the exact same questions from every possible angle, are countless. And every single one of them is pointed at trying to make it make some kind of sense, lol.
Very much creepy and very much on brand with evangelical Achilles who prey on the less fortunate.
Still, I suppose it will give me more of an opportunity to tell them to kindly fuck the hell off my property when they ask for the ‘nice Asian family that lives here’ when my very Italian wife answers the door as they stand there looking very confused.
That may work at first but if the religio-fascists take over the government, they won’t be asking anymore.
can we poison this data?
Yeah I’m wondering what happens if we download it and start giving it bad data. Just say everyone is Christian, or that you’ve met with everyone in your town every day.
Just giving it random data should be good enough. If the users can’t trust the validity of the data, they might stop using the app.
Why would you say everyone’s a Christian? Might as well have some fun. Change all the ones marking themselves as Christians to say that they’re gay liberal polygamists or something.
I figured obviously incorrect data on potential users of the app would be sussed out rather quickly, but posing as a devout bigot who has been converting everyone in town would be more “believable.”
Betcha their tracking the shout out of their users.
But you could spoof that with a simulator.
Defo gonna try lol
Please keep me updated lol
I tried but they want you to give them your home address and I didn’t feel like doxing myself. I’m going to have to come up with a different home address that’s valid in their system. At the same time I don’t want to cause grief for the person whose address I use. Maybe I can use a church address.
Use the churche of Scientologys address
Time to create a satanic AI
this sounds so insane that its hard to believe. but then again, its quite easy to believe. shame that our data is used like this :c
