Everyone should look at the greenhouse emissions from oil refineries and power plants before they really start taking things away from individuals. We all play a part in reducing global warming. Eating less meat and using less energy and natural resources can help, of course, but let’s address the big polluters of carbon dioxide and methane. The two biggest greenhouse gases are carbon dioxide and methane. California’s biggest polluter is some refinery in Los Angeles. Is eating less meat going to put an end to that? I would hope that Biden would have a more reasonable solution than what this guy is suggesting.
I mean, yeah, eating less meat is the biggest thing an individual can do. It’s something like skipping a shower every day for a week is the same as eating a quarter pounder. And that’s just water, doesn’t even get into GHGs
No one should ever be forced to skip a shower, especially not for a week. That’s so unsanitary.
Then we shouldn’t eat burgers? Not sure what you mean
No op but I took it to mean “skipping a quarter pounder is easier and not nearly as socially damaging as skipping showers.”
It’s possible to believe that both individuals and corporations have wrongdoings they are responsible for fixing. If corporations disappeared and your preferred magically ideal socioeconomic system prevailed, it would still be unsustainable if everyone were still omnivores.
Yeah well the other side also wants to take away our household appliances and our meat, and also everything else by enabling corporations to squeeze everyone dry even more than they already are.
How can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat?
Stand still laddy!!
You! Yes you! Behind the bike stands!
He was cruisin’ for a bruisin’.
Whoaa hey wait, Joe, buddy, could you take away the appliances in places I’m looking at to rent? Maaaybe lower that rent comparably? I’d unga bunga my way right into some pre-2012s cost of living happily.
Desperate strawman arguments is all they have.
Biden is coming for your right to strike against rail corporations.
AOC as well
I would support taking away gas stoves and replacing them with modern induction stoves, because it would reduce childhood asthma 12% and probably help a lot of people improve their air quality inside their house, reduce the incidence of gas leaks, etc.
But Biden factually does not want to do that.
I do. But Biden doesn’t.
I lost electricity for almost a week last winter when it was 0F, the only way I got my house warm was boiling big pots of water, I will never get a electric stove, I simply don’t trust the grid.
Interesting that you apparently don’t have a gas furnace, the much more obvious solution. Boiling water for heat is not like a cool and easy solution with no risks or downsides. Get a generator if you’re worried about electric outages that bad.
Gas furnaces need an electric blower to move the heat around.
I’d settle for no new gas hookups. Why are we allowing people to waste money on new infrastructure for something we just need to get rid of? You know they’ll just come whining for handouts in ten years when they realize they ve wasted their money. Why allow people to shortsightedly think they’re saving a little up front at the expense of more breathing issues later?
A lot of people getting these installed don’t have the choice. My new build home (2023) has gas and I was very frustrated by this, basically every home in my area uses gas and it’s not something I could opt out of since I didn’t control the home as it was being built. I do plan on replacing my gas appliances basically as soon as I can reasonably afford it, but there are other amenities new homes also don’t come with that I need to deal with first.
Mine is much older so gas was an excellent choice. Some of my neighborhood has oil heat which is much worse. I don’t know if mine was always gas, but I see no sign of oil
Anyhow, now that I’ve lived here 20 years, everything is coming up on replacement age. I decided “if it dies, it gets electrified”, but maybe I’m close enough
we have to push through oil billionare led faux culture wars. fuck gas appliances and fuck the animal ag industry
Joe Biden trying to take my dingaling 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
Like, fuck Sean Hannity and all that, but I’m pretty sure if half the Lemmy users were in control, I’d be allowed to eat nothing but leaves and have to cut my gas stove into pieces so I could bike it to the recycle depot.
Oh nooo eating plants and riding bikes and recycling and not using stoves that give you memory loss! What a terrible world that would be.
if you look at the more thought out visions we can make things fucking better.
The stove thing is soo stupid. It’s not even a ban on gas stoves, it’s just requiring you to properly ventilate areas when they are installed.
Properly ventillate??? SoShALiSmmZ!!!q1
Yeah people act like Joe Biden is going to personally show up at their house, kick them in the nuts, and take a sledgehammer to the stove. I mean, I’d pay to see that, but it’s really just various levels of government saying, “Hey, breathing this stuff in isn’t great for your brains, here are some financial incentives if you want to replace your stove.” The reality is kind of boring.
Hmm, I think there may be some overlap between “people whose brains have been damaged by improperly-ventilated gas stoves” and “people who think the government wants to rip their gas stoves out of their house and leave them to freeze.”
I know those are the same people who would never look at data or facts, but ….
My ex lives in “new-ish” townhouse (just a few decades old, which is new for this area). It’s new enough to be fairly weathertight. However it is gas but the stove has that “ventilation” where it sucks up all the smoke and toxic gases and grease, and blows them in your face. However, now they also have an air quality monitor and it’s eye opening just how quickly the air quality gets bad, and how bad it gets, when they use the stove. Anyhow who cares about facts or reality should really get a look at something like this. In any sane world, it would change minds
All decent, common-sense, regular everyday reality is boring. That’s why it never makes the news.
yeah the worst thing that would happen is next time you replace your stove you’d have to get an induction stove and maybe some electrical work
HOW DARE THE GUBBERNMENT TELL ME WHICH FUMES I CAN HUFF
Or the alternate zoning thing that also got caught up in this: no new gas connections. That’s also not taking anything away, just changing what gets built. It also doesn’t cost more: the big cost is when you need to convert one set of infrastructure to another: can we just avoid that headache?
If conservatives really believed in “fiscal restraint” why can’t the see new gas connections as a waste of money creating infraStructure that will long outlive its usefulness? No city grows fast enough for this to really help much with our energy transition, this is merely stop wasting money on something we need to get away from
Imagine being healthy and not torturing animals. Disgusting.
Them: All our ancestors ate meat at every meal for all of history!
Me: actually,
Them: ALL OF HISTORY
also, why should we do what our ancestors did. that’s like running in circles. if we can improve, we should. i want to live in a star trek world, not the dark ages.
although it was mostly plants, a rabbit you stabbed with a stick while foraging here and there, and the occasional big game
Lol do you know how many megafauna humans hunted to extinction?
as a percentage of calories big game was small. it’s hard to catch one of those vs just eating some plants growing over there
A mammoth carcass could sustain a village for a year lol.
You’d have to preserve it first
That’s where I diverge from most of the Lemmy leftists. As an anarchist, I cannot force you to do any of those things, even if I think they are good. You must choose to do it yourself, and I must convince you to do it.
you don’t have to cut it into peaces you can use a cargo bike /s
10,000 transfem people: “works for me”
Was waiting for someone to make this joke for 11 hours lol
Out of the loop. What did I miss?
Trans women welcome Biden taking their meat
Oh lol! Quite obvious in hindsight!
And their stupid audience will swallow it whole.
Swallow Hannity’s meat, or?
Yes
Sean Hannity is a meat
Yeah, like a meat-head. Haha, gotem! BOOOSH !
“Joe Biden wants to take your meat so you better find a hiding spot that he can’t reach” https://youtu.be/eA-l6R4bKO4?si=Cq_6uzV9QIgDb3-i
Nick is a goddamn treasure and I will fight anyone who thinks different.
I’m not doing anything with it anyways, so he can have it.
