• dhork@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    So, to be clear, you’re saying Biden completely forgot about this stuff for five years?

    I still have a few boxes that are packed from the last time I moved, and that was much more than 5 years ago. I’m sure I’ll get to looking at them someday.

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      1 year ago

      If any of those boxes contained classified documents and you weren’t an already established politician you’d be Chelsea Manning’d into years of solitary confinement though.

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        1 year ago

        True, but this is where Presidents and VPs get some special treatment, because so much of their work involves classified materials, they are “working” 24/7, and have no practical way to separate their personal and workplace spaces. So it is logistically much easier for them to simply retain something they shouldn’t have by putting it in the wrong pile. Manning, on the other hand, had a clear space where they needed to interact with that info, separate from their personal space. There are far more controls in place for someone at Manning’s level than for the VP or President.

        That doesn’t mean breaches shouldn’t be taken seriously at the highest levels, but they do get the benefit of the doubt.

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      1 year ago

      Eh, maybe because I have to take annual training on the handling of classified materials, but I don’t just mix em up with bowling trophies.

      And the stuff I deal with is way less important and confidential, obviously

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        1 year ago

        Maybe if it makes a difference if you live on the grounds of the US Naval Observatory and your official residence is also a place authorized to hold all that information. That makes it more likely to mix it up with your old Amtrak ticket stubs.

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          your official residence is also a place authorized to hold all that information.

          Bruh, even if that was true, that wasn’t the only place he left records, that wasn’t even the first place he turned them in from.

          And after insisting he turned everything in, the FBI still found more documents after he fought them searching…

          The report is public, there’s no excuse to not know what’s in it if you actually care.

          https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/08/politics/robert-hur-report-biden-classified-documents-read/index.html

          Seriously, it makes since to have the opinion you do if that’s what happened. But that’s not what happened.

          So please. Take the time to read it before taking to social media to defend Biden on this. That’s what trumpets do. We can be better. We can have better candidates.

          But only if we care about actual facts and have actual standards.

          If both parties act like Republicans, all of us are fucked.