Statcounter reports that Windows 11 continues to lose its market share for the second month in a row. Windows 10, meanwhile, is gaining more users and is now back above the 70% mark.

  • Lettuce eat lettuce@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    So glad my job allows me to use Linux as my OS. I do IT, and everybody else in the company uses Windows.

    Constant problems, brutal driver issues, OS crashes and lockups, software installation failures, hardware incompatibility problems, it’s awful.

    Linux at work, Linux at home, such an improved experience.

    I’ll still always love XP though, the last OS from Microsoft that felt like it had a soul.

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      1 year ago

      I litteratur haven’t had ANY of those problems running Windows 10 or 11 FWIW, not have any of my friends or relatives.

      I’m not anti-Linux or anything though, have used it for 26 years now, but only briefly on the desktop.

      • astreus@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        Work laptops in particular suck, I find. My first one was lagging, freezing, and crashing within months. The second one is three times as expensive but the same brand and is still not happy.

        I also use Windows at home and haven’t had the same experience. I think it’s really manufacturer dependent

  • lemmyingly@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Regardless of OS, I’d like to see actual user numbers with stats like this because a percentage oversimplifies the landscape.

    Have people moved away from (uninstalled) Windows 11 or have people just bought computers with a different OS/older version of Windows on it. To me, these tell a different tale.

  • Bitflip@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Sounds like what happened when Windows 8 came out. Oops I meant Windows Vista. My bad, I’m thinking of Windows Me. Sorry, I might have it confused with NT 3. Everyone loved Windows 2.0 right?

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    I work with Windows as a requirement of my job, I’m in IT and I’m constantly in and out of the bowels of the operating system. I have a lot of thoughts on this stuff.

    My first thought is, stop moving everything around. Even in Windows 10, if you’re using an older version, say 1804, and you switch to a newer version, say 22H2, stuff is moved all over the place. It makes it super hard to direct someone blindly to the control they need to click to get something done. You’re making my job much harder than it needs to be. Stop it. There’s no reason to move this crap around.

    To bring out my grumpy old man routine: back in my day, if you wanted to do anything, you went to the control panel. Everything you needed was there. Now it’s in settings, no wait, clicking on this settings option for that thing now launches an appx thing that, surprisingly (/s) is broken.

    Too many damn times have I tried to open their damned settings app or the new defender security appx dialog simply crashes. The solution is almost always dkim online repair. Well, if it needs repair so damn much, how about you just repair it for me as part of system maintenance? The fuck.

    Windows 11 is a special form of suffering. Right clicking on a file and… What the fuck is this? I basically click on “more settings” every time I right click. And the changes to the settings application… Don’t get me started.

    Also, why in the fuck do we have copilot installed by default now? You’re an operating system, stay in your goddamned lane.

    The only good thing I can say about Windows 11 is that it has really good security. So good that I frequently have trouble doing routine things. Today, I was trying to run a PowerShell script and it told me some bullshit error, which is pretty common for PowerShell. After googling the error, the recommendation was to change the execution policy. I went to do that at an administrative PowerShell prompt and it told me that I didn’t have access to change it. While running as the administrator. Yay. Shit is broken again. Fuck me I guess. I’m off to unfuck my less than five month old new work system because Microsoft can’t get their shit straight.

    Customization options do not and cannot help me. 90% of the time I’m working on someone else’s computer, so I have to fucking deal with the default behavior because I’m not going to change it for 500+ users whom I support. I’m pretty sure I’d get more than a few complaints. So I have to fucking deal with whatever hairbrained decision Microsoft made about what should be default.

    Windows 10 had its own share of bullshit. One of my most common annoyances was the way the OS decided to install fucking candy crush, every fucking time a new user logged into the goddamned computer. It’s like playing whack-a-mole, but not fun and filled with uninstalls. I hope Microsoft made some good money on that brand deal, because I sure paid for it with my frustration.

    After all of this, I keep finding myself in the fucking registry, and thank God that’s one thing that hasn’t been fucked over by their new UI team. I keep having to fix dumb issues by injecting registry keys so I can not deal with the stupid UI all the goddamned time. It’s hacky, and I’m happier for it.

    I could keep going. Pretty much every decision they’ve made in the past 5 years has been some measure of bad. The only thing I’ve agreed with them doing is finally ending internet explorer. Begrudgingly, edge is better, but not by a lot, IMO.

    The last thing I’ll say is that the tpm bullshit is going to give me an aneurysm. Having a TPM at Windows install usually prompts the system to activate bitlocker. Bitlocker itself isn’t bad, but it’s fucking terrible when windows does this shit and doesn’t really inform the user about it. Nobody knows that they need to back up their goddamned bitlocker recovery keys, so inevitably, when something goes wrong (we’re talking about Windows here, something will go wrong) and the system stops booting, you need the fucking bitlocker recovery key to do anything. Your option, if you can call it that, if you can’t get the recovery key, is to format all of your shit, and reinstall from scratch. I know several people who have lost a lot of work and irreplaceable files, like pictures, because bitlocker fucked them over and they had no idea it was even running.

    Sorry about your loss, but all those family photos you saved that don’t exist anywhere else are locked behind basically uncrackable encryption, get fucked, I guess.

    I’m going to cut this rant off. Needless to say I’m pretty tired of Microsoft’s bullshit. Make an operating system. That’s what people want. That’s it. We shouldn’t need “debloat” scripts to fix your nonsense. Gah.

  • foggy@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Windows 11 upgrade strategy was basically like

    Microsoft: Hey gurl let’s go out, I got a new whip!

    You: …okay, where we going?

    Microsoft: uh, girlfriend. Nowhere. Look at you! Come on, we gotta get you looking ready to go out.

    …oh no. Oh no, girl. This won’t do it all. Call me when you get a nice outfit, k? Bye!

    (Later)

    Microsoft: 😢 why don’t my friends answer my texts?

  • Frog-Brawler@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    I kinda feel like Microsoft already knows about the recognized pattern of every other OS release being considered a success. That being said, I’d bet $1 they’re already spending more in the development of Windows 12 v 11.

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    1 year ago

    After trying Windows 11 for a while, I just gave up and installed Kubuntu on my computer. I still use a Windows VM for some things, but I make sure to firewall the shit out of it lol

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      1 year ago

      I switched to Nobara. I still got to dual boot 10 for a few games but I’m in no rush to get the install set up. I tried 11 and its just pure ensitifacation.

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        1 year ago

        I’m actually scared to dual boot. I’ve heard too many stories of Windows updates messing up the bootloader

        • xapr [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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          I haven’t switched or started dual-booting yet because I haven’t had time, but I’ve read the recommendation that the best way to do dual or even multiple boot is to have separate physical OS drives and select which one to boot from with the BIOS boot selector. Smaller SSD drives are pretty cheap these days, especially if you get them used on ebay or whatever. I picked up a Samsung 240 with 0% wearout for like $20 bucks.

  • Vraylle@lemmy.sdf.org
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    1 year ago

    I’ve been using Windows since version 3.1. My rig isn’t cutting edge but still plenty good, but isn’t supported for an upgrade to 11. The AI spyware in 11 is just another reason not to switch to it even if I could. One 10 hits end of life, I’m putting Mint on it.

  • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I use W11, I have no problems with it, sure the settings menus are shit but I just open the control panel directly and its the same since W95. The rest I don’t care that much, for work I use Kali anyway.

    WSL and installing python from the store (with all the PATH issues automagically solved) is pretty great.

  • Moody@lemmy.zip
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    1 year ago

    Love how this is posted when I literally just got done trashing my os(win11) earlier this week and decided to move back to windows 10. Now I run windows 10 stripped of garbage using ntlite. It’s been so much better.

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    1 year ago

    I think a primary use for windoze machines is gaming. I hear that the steam deck has pushed a lot of games into playable states on Linux.

    So I hope this makes it much easier to switch from windoze to Linux.

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      1 year ago

      I’m in this camp. I use my PC mainly for gaming, and it runs Linux. All the games I care about are supported just fine with Steam and Proton. Not every game is compatible, but it works for the ones I want to play.

      I found it very easy to get my games working, but experiences will vary. Most games were zero effort because it was handled automatically.

    • Hucklebee@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      I moved to Linux Mint about 4 weeks ago (with optional dual boot Windows). All the games I tried have worked so far, even when not officially supported (turn on Proton compatibility in steam settings). If your multiplayer games use anticheat, Linux is a no go.

      If you happen to have 2 harddrives, try installing Linux on one to see if it’s something for you.

  • filister@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I have Windows 11 for work and I find the new package manager winget as a Godsend. I am doing all program installations and upgrading over it and it works pretty well. Also the terminal is a very nice addition.

  • Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    The most annoying thing about Lemmy is all the Linux bros crawling out of their holes when the word “windows” is mentioned.

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      1 year ago

      Why? Do you feel like you are team Microsoft and anyone suggesting you could have a better experience on another operating system is the enemy?

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        1 year ago

        Nope. As a Linux user, even I’m annoyed.

        I’ve seen people ask legitimate Windows troubleshooting questions and then don’t get an answer but dozens, if not more, messages to switch to linux.

        It drives people away.

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          1 year ago

          I’ll admit it’s done the opposite to me. Gonna make the switch any day now.

        • JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          I’m also a decade long Linux user and it drives me insane too. I’m happy to support someone if they have questions ABOUT Linux, but otherwise I don’t shove it down their throat or really mention it. I nearly lost friends being the way so many other Linux users are and that was the changing point for me.

    • Observer1199@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      It is extremely irritating - admittedly I used to do the same many moons ago but then I grew up.

      I think with experience/perspective people can see that windows is needed. There’s just no way all the computer illiterate people (most people) will be able for Linux, not unless it’s simplified to be exactly like windows… (I don’t want to hear about how your 120 year old grandma learned arch at 100 having never touched a computer before and now teaches software dev - exceptions prove the rule)

      I also grow tired of every year hearing it’s going to be the year of Linux desktop.

  • NutellaIs4Lvrs@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    My work laptop recently updated to Windows 11 and man, what a pile of garbage. If I could downgrade, I definitely would