Here’s an idea google, why not set it back like it was 10-15 years ago
The problem is, the internet has adapted to the Google of a year ago, which means that setting Google search back to 2009 just means that every “SEO hacker” gets to have a field day to get spam to the top of results without any controls to prevent them.
Google built a search engine optimized for the early internet. Bad actors adapted, to siphon money out of Google traffic. Google adapted to stop them. Bad actors adapted. So began a cat-and-mouse game which ended with the pre-AI Google search we all know and hate today. Through their success, Google has destroyed the internet that was; and all that’s left is whatever this is. No matter what happens next, Google search is toast.
It’s even broader than that: historically most of the original protocols for the Internet were designed assuming people wouldn’t do bad things: for example the original e-mail protocol (SMTP) allowed anybody to connect to a an e-mail server using Telnet (a plain text, unencrypted remote comms terminal) and type a bunch of pretty si mple commands to send an e-mail as if they were any e-mail account on that domain (which was a great way for techies to prank their mates back when I was at Uni in the early 90s) and even now that a lot of it got tightenned we’re still suffering from problems like spam and phishing due to the “good faith” approach for designing what became one of the most used text communication protocol around.
They way the internet works now has kind of fucked up their model. Google is scared
They helped cause it.
Yeeeup. And want to make it worse
Really admiring the hero graphic on this one. That is a home run hit.
Id be tickled to have odd answers by mr. yankovic mself
Would you be tickled if Mr Yankovic strapped you down to some medical restraining table and then…tickled your feet with a feather???
Seems like something he’d do.
High chance of success
I think the feather was Yankee Doodle not Yankovic
Good, remove all the weird reddit answers, leaving only the “14 year old neo-nazi” reddit answers, “cop pretending to be a leftist” reddit answers, and “39 year old pedophile” reddit answers. This should fix the problem and restore google back to its defaults
Let’s remove all the /s and /jk comments, r/jokes, /greentexts posts etc.
It’s evolving, just backwards.
At this point, it seems like google is just a platform to message a google employee to go google it for you.
Does anybody remember “Cha-Cha?” This was literally their model. Person asks a question via text message (this was like 2008), college student Googles the answer, follows a link, copies and pastes the answer, college student gets paid like 20¢.
Source: I was one of those college students. I never even got paid enough to get a payout before they went under.
Is that employee named Jeeves?
…Always had been
This thing is way too half baked to be in production. A day or two ago somebody asked Google how to deal with depression and the stupid AI recommended they jump off the Golden Gate Bridge because apparently some redditor had said that at some point. The answers are so hilariously wrong as to go beyond funny and into dangerous.
Hopefully this pushes people into critical thinking, although I agree that being suicidal and getting such a suggestion is not the right time for that.
“Yay! 1st of April has passed, now everything on the Internet is right again!”
I think this is the eternal 1st of April.
One could hope but I don’t think it’s likely.
Don’t worry, they’ll insert it all into captchas and make us label all their data soon.
“Select the URL that answers the question most appropriately”
I still can’t figure out what captcha wants. When it tells me to select all squares with a bus, I can never get it right unless every square is a separate picture.
allowing reddit to train Google’s AI was a mistake to begin with. i mean just look at reddit and the shitlord that is spez.
there are better sources and reddit is not one of them.
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Now, instead of debugging the code, you have to debug the data. Sounds worse.
After enough time and massaging the data, it could all work out - Google’s head of search aka Yahoo former search exec
The onion articles? Or just all the other random shit they’ve shoveled into their latest and greatest LLM?
Some of the recently reported ones have been traced back to Reddit shitposts. The hard thing they have to deal with is that the more authoritative you wrote your reddit comments, shitpost or not, the more upvotes you would get (at least that’s what I felt was happening to my writing over time as I used reddit). That dynamic would mean reddit is full of people who sound very very confident in the joke position they post about (and it then is compounded by the many upvotes)
That dynamic would mean reddit is full of people who sound very very confident in the joke position
A lot of the time people on reddit/lemmy/the internet are very confident in their non-joking position. Not sure if the same community exists here, but we had /r/confidentlyincorrect over on reddit
Yep. It’s gotta be hard to distinguish, because there are legitimately helpful and confidently correct people on reddit posts too. There’s value there, but they have to figure it out how to distinguish between good and shit takes.
Yeah. I was including Reddit shit posts in the “random shit they’ve shoveled into their latest and greatest LLM”. It’s nuts to me that they put basically no actual thought into the repercussions of using Reddit as a data set without anything to filter that data.
It goes beyond me why a corporation with so much to lose does’t have a narrow ai that simply checks if its response is appropriate before providing it.
Wont fix all but if i try this manually chatgpt pretty much always catches its own errors.
I once had a Christmas day post blow up and become top of the day from a stupid pic I uploaded. I wonder if some of those comments or a weird version of that pic will pop up. Anyone that had similar things happen should keep their eye out. Anything that blew up probably gets a bit more weight.
Oh God, cumbox! All of cumbox is in there. I wonder what kind of unrelated search could summon up that bit of fuzzy fun?
I did nothing but shitpost for the last 4 or so years of my time using reddit. I posted shit just as dumb as putting glue on pizza. I was such a prolific troll that I’m expecting to see something I wrote show up on Google ai some day.
Wouldn’t it be easier to hardcode in the servers an entire encyclopedia instead of trying to limit a generative model to give only “right” answers?
Yes. But that’s not ✨AI✨
Ay, ay, ay
Which would be okay, but since no AI means less money, we gotta do AI. Line goes up
Google wants that to work. That’s why the “knowledge panels” kept popping up at the top of search before now with links to Wikipedia. They only want to answer the easy questions; definitions, math problems, things that they can give you the Wikipedia answer for, Yelp reviews, “Thai Food Near Me,” etc. They don’t want to answer the hard questions; presumably because it’s harder to sell ads for more niche questions and topics. And “harder” means you have to get humans involved. Which is why they’re complaining now that users are asking questions that are “too hard for our poor widdle generative AI to handle :-(”— they don’t want us to ask hard questions.
That came answer most questions though. For example, I hung a door recently and had some questions that it answered (mostly) accurately. An encyclopedia can’t tell my how to hang a door
That cant answer most questions though.
It would make AI much more trustworthy. You cannot trust chatGPT on anything related to science because it tells you stuff like the Andromeda galaxy being inside the Milky Way. The only way to fix that is to directly program basic known science into the AI.
Mine doesn’t:
It depends on how you ask the question, and there is also a randomization done on the AI answer that you get. The point is that you would be foolish to trust AI to accurately answer science questions. Why the f*ck would you want a randomized answer to a science question?
ME: how far is andromeda from caldwell 70?
ChatGPT: Caldwell 70, also known as NGC 7000 or the North America Nebula, is an emission nebula located in the constellation Cygnus. It is much closer to us than the Andromeda Galaxy. The North America Nebula is estimated to be around 1,600 light-years away from Earth. Therefore, in comparison to the distance between the Milky Way and Andromeda, Caldwell 70 is significantly closer to us.
In fact Caldwell 70 is over twice as far as Andromeda, because Caldwell 70 in NGC 300, not NDC 7000 (Caldwell-20). Also, the AI didn’t even answer the question that I actually asked.
Same I was dealing with a strange piece of software I searched configs and samples for hours and couldn’t find anything about anybody having any problems with the weird language they use. I finally gave up and asked gpt, it explained exactly what was going wrong and gave me half a dozen answers to try to fix it.
Yeah, there’s a reason this wasn’t done before generative AI. It couldn’t handle anything slightly more specific.
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