• AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Candace Owens has described science as a “pagan faith,” after saying she had been reading literature supporting the theory that Earth is flat, rather than spherical.

    Owens made the statement on Monday’s episode of Candace, the podcast she launched last month following her exit from the Daily Wire in March.

    Explaining her stance, Owens, who recently announced that she had converted to Catholicism, took aim at, among other things, COVID-19 vaccines and safety measures that were implemented at the height of the pandemic.

    Owens proceeded to play a clip of controversial influencer Andrew Tate, in which he expressed his own distrust of scientific data during the COVID-19 pandemic.

    Owens said that she was open to reading literature on flat-Earth theory not because she believed in a flat Earth, but because she disbelieved “the notion that science is ever settled.”

    “It just keeps turning out that if you follow the Bible and believe in biblical scripture, your life gets better and better and better,” added Owens, who recently said a “Christian holocaust” was taking place around the world.


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      “the notion that science is ever settled.”

      The whole point of science is that it’s never settled, and that there’s always something new to learn.

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    That’s ok, I describe conservative as pig fucker.

    If we’re just making up meanings for words, they may as well be more descriptive.

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    An oxymoron. The principals of science are provable through repetition. Faith implies lack of proof. An oxymoron.

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      Where I think she has a point (whoever she is) is that most people don’t repetitively prove science’s principles themselves. So for the vast majority of people that believe in science, they take their world view on faith from a book written by someone they don’t know.

      They grow up with the understanding that it’s the truth, so they accept it. They have no idea how to actually follow the scientific process and test the theories themselves, they just trust the authority of the institution distributing the knowledge.

      You might think this is a false equivalency. But with religion collapsing more and more each day, they’ve mapped their bullshit quite nicely on to science. Generating plenty of pseudoscience for anyone who believes in science but is made uncomfortable by its findings. Religion lives on in how the masses actually perceive science. Because the mechanism is no different:

      I don’t understand the universe, but I have faith that someone does. I’ll put them in charge so they can give me the bullet points of how I should live.

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    Whelp if science is a religion, at least our pastors aren’t covering up for child-molestation.

    But seriously though, even when not being grifters, it’s like as though conservatives just never developed a theory of mind - they can’t process the idea of people who don’t possess some kind of dogmatic faith.

    Some people prefer to follow where the evidence leads, rather than what the pastor says.

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    She looks pretty modern there for someone who views science as faith. All those clothes natural fibers and not made with electricity?

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    Sure okay then show me the proof that your faith has that God exists and then it’ll be comparable to science.

    Oh what’s that? You don’t have any fucking proof at all because it’s make believe bullshit made up by ignoramuses from thousands of years ago?

    Go fuck yourself Candace you dumb fucking cunt.

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    First off, Candeath Omens can go fuck herself.

    I do think however that there is a weird technology faith in that people believe technology will fix all issues long term or improve or all aspects of our lives. Like when people say AI will fix global warming / climate change… dude, it can’t even properly take orders at a McDonald’s, which is traditionally one of the least qualified jobs. And if you ask an AI how to stop it, it’ll just tell you what we already know, which people haven’t been doing for years. Because that’s what am AI does.

    It’s mostly the people neither actually engineering the technology nor studying the actual issue that believe this. But it’s a huge driver in the discussion.

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        That’s why I wrote about “technology faith”, in contrast to the topic “science faith”, because while I think the dangerous idiot is wrong as always, the related issue (as technology is applied science) exists.

        Regardless, her motive is just to discredit proper scientific methods and results she doesn’t like, while my point was about technology and its limitations that people don’t understand yet think will fix everything.

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        Laser is also not describing faith in the proper context.

        Believing tech will make your life better and believing in supernatural beings are not even close to the same thing. One is an ethos one is not.

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    Christofascists fuck off. Not only is she obviously wrong about science being pagan, most pagans trust and follow the scientific method as the basis of our reality.

    The Satanic Temple even has it as one of its tenets (not that they necessarily represent pagans, but it illustrates the idea)

    V. Beliefs should conform to one’s best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one’s beliefs.

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    Interesting. Faith is belief without the need for evidence while science is evidence based where belief its not needed. So “pagan faith” is …um…

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    Let’s have a contest. Let’s see who can get to the moon first. She can build temples, and churches, make sacrifices at holy shrines, and get thousands and thousands of people to pray for her to get there. Me, I’ll take a rocket built by scientists.

    She couldn’t even get across an ocean or to the top of the highest mountains on Earth with nothing but religion. She couldn’t even feed her drivel to her victims, sorry, listeners if scientists hadn’t developed the various technologies used to send her words and images to them.