Some Republicans are starting to seriously regret Donald Trump’s vice presidential nominee, Ohio Senator J.D. Vance.
It’s been only one week since Vance was nominated at the Republican National Convention, and already his own party members are expressing severe doubts about Trump’s pick. The former president’s allies have acknowledged that nominating Vance was the product of Trump’s absolute certainty that he would be able to defeat Joe Biden in November. While Vance wouldn’t do much for swing voters or independents, he would likely shore up support among Trump’s base.
But ever since Biden passed the torch to Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic Party’s new presumptive nominee, Republicans have begun to sour on Vance.
“The road got a lot harder. He was the only pick that wasn’t the safe pick. And I think everyone has now realized that,” one House Republican told Axios Thursday, under the condition of anonymity.
Another House Republican told Axios that Vance “doesn’t add much.”
James Donald Bowman is his birth name. Tired of this ‘woke’ changing names agenda!
Wait… so the Republican ticket is James Donald and Donald John? Those fucking nerds.
What if we combine them? James Donald John TRANce. Think that’ll bring out more GOP voters?
I’m up for combining them, but only if it’s in some sort of weird human-centipede situation.
So where does the Vance part come in? Sounds like he wants to be an edgy pop guitar solo artist.
It’s amazing how much Trump got played. The democrats had to know Biden was going to drop out when they scheduled the earliest presidential debate in history. It was all a show so people would demand Biden drop out before he actually dropped out.
And not only did Trump agree to it (cause his ego told him he would dominate), now he’s picked a god awful VP pick cause he thought he knew who his opponent was.
You are giving way to much credit to the capability of the democratic leadership.
While I’m normally inclined to agree, this presidential debate was both historic in how early it was and historic in how bad Biden performed. There is no reason to be this aggressive about scheduling unless they know he’s either going to fail epically, or succeed epically.
The only thing historic is about how utterly convinced that people are that Biden was awful in it.
I watched the debate. He wasnt 1/100th as awful as everyone has seemingly hallucinated themselves into thinking thanks to an endless avalance of propaganda screaming “BIDEN FAILED/INCOMPETENT,HUMILIATED/ETC”
The most awful thing about the fucking debate is the moderator kept letting trump go off on rants and not correcting/stoping him. Bidens performance isnt even in the top 3.
People are allowed to have different opinions. Yours just happens to be in the minority.
Yeah, its amazing how that happens when you focus on facts and ignore groupthink and feels.
For sure, like you and I both focus on facts (even though in this case it is 100% subjective how you think he performed) and I for sure ignore groupthink and feels as well and we both have different opinions. It’s aMaZiNg!
I love this but no way our Democrat leadership thought that far ahead.
Ha, yeah. I’ve been a registered Democrat since I was 18. No freaking way they tried at something so hard like that.
To be fair, for all we know you’re 19.
I’m more cynical about the DNC than anybody but - people daydream all the time about what could happen in the future if this or that happens. Some asshole right winger started daydreaming about taking over the Supreme Court back in the 1970s and it doesn’t mean that he planned it all out but you can still think about the next few moves to be ready if the opportunity arises.
Somebody in the DNC imagined this scenario many months/years ago and talked about it to their bosses. Gaming out the possibilities and having the slide deck ready is how wild, game changing moves like this end up happening.
The democrats had to know Biden was going to drop out when they scheduled the earliest presidential debate in history.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
You’re talking an extraordinary amount of stupidity vs a moderate amount of planning.
If this election can teach us anything, if you live in a bubble then you have some incredibly stupid blind spots.
Are you saying that the people running the Democratic Party live in a bubble?
The democratic party has as many bubbles as they have geriatric candidates. A candidate manages their staff, but the staff can also manage the candidate and it creeps into elderly abuse at a certain point. Look at Diane Feinstein or RBG: two people who should have retired but their staff didn’t want to loose their relative power so they filter what their boss sees. I’m sure the same is true for Trump. Biden at least has Pelosi to pull his head from his ass and showed him the real numbers his staff wasn’t showing.
You know, Vance was picked on July 15, and Joe dropped out on July 21. Is it possible that the Dems intentionally held off on the news that Joe would be dropping out so that the Reps would fumble the bag this hard on their VP pick? Or is it more likely that Donald made the mistake of listening to his incredibly stupid sons when they told him to go with Vance?
I assume Trump’s only criteria was whoever swore the hardest that they wouldn’t interfere with his next insurrection
Correct, he picked the one go who did not try to stop him from putting the fork in the electric socket
Porque no los dos?
Poor JD, his grandma really did hate him for being a burdensome piece of shit.
And for what he did to her favorite sofa. He even took off the plastic cover - just raw digging it with no protection.
If you were an extreme project 2025 republican, Vance would have been the perfect candidate assuming that 1. The democrats would throw the election by running Biden with failing health. And 2. That Trump would die of a heart attack in a few years.
I legitimately can’t think of another reason why they would have picked him. The Trump campaign and project 2025 were counting on both those facts being true.
It’s actually sadder. Trump doesn’t want a VP that can claim any credit for his electoral victory. If he picked anyone that people will say “strengthened him”, he’d hate that.
Pride goeth before the fall.
He also just wants a yes man, he REALLY didn’t like that Pence found his conscience while he was cleaning up after the election and didn’t go along with “the election was stolen and thus Donald Trump is still president”. Vance has no political compass - he has a weathervane that points towards whatever he thinks will get him power, so that’s perfect.
And 2. That Trump would die of a heart attack in a few years.
Yeah, but donnie is/was a project 2025 guy. Was he on board with that aspect of things? With his diet/exercise plan, maybe he is? 🤣
I mean, his last VP pick had lightning powers. This one fucks couches. That’s a hell of a downgrade.
Well…if he’s fucking hard enough maybe he can generate some static discharge.
Oh, I’m sure there’s some discharge.
So at best the low budget version
lightning powers? I’m ootl
There were a lot of memes involving mike pence having lightning powers, and often fighting anything gay with electricity. IIRC this all came from him allegedly advocating for electroshock therapy as a method of conversion therapy (which snopes said is false, and that’s as much research as I’m putting into a tangent on meme history)
You’ve never heard of Mike “Like the cock? Get the shock!” Pence?
oh… yeah; just never heard conversion therapy described as “lightning powers”…
It’s also so fucking funny when Trump turns on someone. Can’t wait to see it happen with Vance
I really think the won’t be happy with anyone for too long. That’s the problem with a cult.
Any second-in-command that was actually popular would be a threat to Trump, so that cannot be tolerated. He’s got to find an uncharismatic sycophant smart enough to help him purge enemies, yet dumb enough to be incapable of plotting against him himself.
"Vance does worse in his home region at -16 points than he does in the average of all polls… So the people who know him best, the region that knows him best, they like him even less than America likes him.”
— Polling analyst Harry Enten, on CNN
Plus, betting markets have opened up on if he’ll be retained on the ticket.
I like him better than I like Trump, but then I want them to lose. I would vote for the corpse of Richard Nixon before I considered voting for either of them.
Noooo we spent so much time and money messaging against him! That’s not fair!111!!
Memers should be reimbursed.
Plus, betting markets have opened up on if he’ll be retained on the ticket.
I’m not a betting man but I pretty much came to the comments to see if anyone else thought this too. “We” showed it’s “ok” to drop out this close to the election so I 100% believe they’re going to do the same with him and they can just have fox news say “the Democrats already did it so we’re doing it to get back at them!” because if there’s one thing maga loves more than beating up on (insert non cis/white/male people) it’s revenge.
Even if they weren’t evil pieces of shit, they’d have every right to change the VP if they want.
Actually makes me wonder whether they’ll try to pressure Trump to quit, for these same reasons.
I mean, he definitely won’t quit, but they might try.
And yet he still won a Senate seat. 😬😬😬
So how many Scaramucci’s to each Vance?
2 Trusses tops
his previous VP was lame too, he wants the show all for himself
Are we talking about JD Vance the couch fucker?
I think he’s a natural pairing with Donald Trump, the philanderer. They can bring one girl back home without it getting “weird.”
He prefers the term Furniture Fondler.
More cushion for the pushin!
It’d be hilarious if a whisper campaign about couch-fuckin’ is what stopped fascism…
No, we’!re talking about the asshole who has plenty of real things to criticize without lowering ourselves to Republican-level antics by repeating random lies from some idiot’s Twitter account.
lol. Peace brother/sister. Have a great day today!
Just do the real stuff like his dolphin fetish!
JD “Nothing finer than a sofa recliner” Vance
Again, there is ZERO evidence that JD Vance has reached earth-shattering orgasm in the loving embrace of a two-piece sectional, or that he has had a wild fling or two with wicker outdoor patio furniture. NONE. He certainly has not done so while making disgusting claims about gay people.
This is probably how furries became popular. People saw that Monty Python skit about the mice men and thought it was funny and started dressing up.
I have the evidence that shows it is all true right here.
Live action bigmouth confirmed, unfortunately.
i adore that he will live out the rest of his days being known as j.d. the couch fucking mascara muffin man vance
We need to stop making fun of men wearing eyeliner. Everything else is fair game but no matter how we spin it or couch it in “well they care, it’s just hypocritical, I don’t care!” it’s a very gendered insult that requires mocking men who wear eyeliner. It’s not clever and it punches down.
What we should do is praise them for normalizing makeup for men.
I’m sorry but Couch-fucker McGuy-Liner is way too good not to use.
LOL stealing that, fyi
I fully disagree. He’s only getting mocked for that because he’s a “manly man” who would surely criticize others for similar things. And punish anyone who isn’t cis. No one (surely some exceptions but a very small percentage) mocking him for this would ever do so if he weren’t like that.
And I don’t agree that it’s fair game to repeat a made up lie because it’s supposedly funny. That’s what Republicans do.
After watching Lemmy spout conspiracy theories galore minutes after the trump shooting and also not give a single shit about this “funny meme” being false, it’s really got me questioning if the left is any smarter than the right. Something I have taken for granted for decades. It’s depressing.
republicans push their lies as facts. no one is trying to claim the couchfucker meme is true. it’s trolling. not remotely the same thing as what republicans do. plus it’s hilarious.
no, vance’s new name is couchfucker, but I’m sure he appreciates you getting upset about it for him
Not everyone understands the trolling. I believed it might be based on something real for a couple days. Nope, just something that was made up. I’ve seen numerous people asking about it also, confused as hell…
I mean even if he really did write some shit like that, it would barely be funny enough to repeat for more than a week. But he didn’t.
saying someone fucks couches is also not remotely comparable to making accusations of rigged elections, rigged judges, pushing, as fact, mountains of conspiracies, and on and on- while the top of their food chain is convicted felon and rapist
it seems ridiculous to even have to spell out these distinctions because of vance the couchfucker
Spreading false information should be avoided if you wish to be seen as being above it. That remains true no matter the content. It seems ridiculous to me that people seem to cling to the joke so hard that I need to spell that out.
no matter how we spin it or couch it
👀
Aite objectively funny. I walked right into that one lol
It’s not about mocking someone who wears eyeliner, it’s about mocking someone who wears eyeliner and pretends they don’t.
your cause is noble, but the outrage over mascara man vance bashing is misguided. “punching down” is insulting race, sexuality, gender, disability, and any other thing that no one chooses for themselves. makeup is 100% a choice, for everyone. in vance’s example it’s a ridiculous choice, given the requisite strictly defined GOP persona of the “manly man,” which obviously doesn’t involve men wearing makeup. so vance will be mocked for it.
where’s the outrage over making fun of trump’s orange spray tan? guliani’s hair dye leaking forehead?
and if you’re going to bring “gendered insult” into the conversation, then exactly who is arguing under the flawed premise that mascara is just for women, if not the person calling the insult gendered?
don’t worry, i make fun of many, many choices people make, from cartoonishly huge pickup trucks, to cargo shorts
You’re a monster. How could you make fun of cargo shorts?
LOL it’s not just me. how many women do you know who don’t think cargo shorts make us look like clowns?
That’s just anger and jealousy because the fashion industry takes all the pockets from women’s clothes so that there will be enough for men’s cargo shorts. I mean, I get that, and it doesn’t seem fair, but I’m not giving up all the pockets.
anger and jealousy because the fashion industry
which is completely justified. women get attacked for not looking perfect 100% of the time, not wearing makeup, not shaving their entire body, AND can’t find any clothes that have a single functional pocket. and god forbid a gray hair shows up
meanwhile, i’m applauded for not giving a rat’s ass what i look like, shaving zero square inches of any part of my body, and i have the option of clothes with ridiculous numbers of pockets. which IS an option because we don’t have to worry about being attacked for not caring what anyone thinks
My mom says they make me look handsome and agrees that it’s neat that I can carry all the sticks and rocks we find at the park!
you do you champ!
They stop laughing when I pull an entire Chinese dinner for five out of those cargo shorts. Y’all sneak in your candy to the movies. I’ll do it my way.
I feel like there’s only a handful of people in the world who can “punch down” at a US senator currently running for vice president. I don’t think any of them are hanging out in Lemmy.
The liberal urge to make sure a racist misogynist narcissistic fascist is comfortable in their spaces
meh fuck that shit
I don’t care about his comfort. I care about men who like to wear makeup being told to go back to their gender’s corner.
Does JD fuck couches? A lot of people are saying it. The best people. They keep saying it so there must be some truth to it. Just the other day I asked him so you prefer leather, right? It’s so smooth. It’s durable. It’s perfect! He looked me dead in the eye and said, “polyester”. It’s so rough though! That’s why he needs the glove!
Hey there’s no proof of that!
Richard Gere’s gerbil approved
The sectional predator himself
“I did not have sectional relations with that sofa”
“Sectional” fuckin hell dude 🤣
God damn, couch - that’s some hoe shit!
Holy fuck, thank you for that laugh
I’m late to the party. What’s up with all that couch fucking?
There was a made-up rumor that his book has an excerpt about fucking a couch…But the memes have been fire so no one cares that it’s false. He’s now a couch fucker.
Made up is just another way to say republikkklown speak.
I mean we can’t prove that he hasn’t fucked a couch. If they can believe dumb shit like pizzagate, qanon and the stuff that comes out of Trump’s mouth we can keep the couch fucker memes going for the lolz.
Lots of people are saying it, and he has not refuted it. We know it’s true.
Some really smart and honest guy, this guy, he’s smart, and he’s really honest, you know, he told me personally ok, me ok, he said that this couch fucker was also a goat fucker. I have to believe it, i was told it, by a really really smart guy
Ok that’s pretty fucking funny. Has anybody already made R34 of that?
You’re welcome to go look, I’m certainly not going to.
That’s so gross. Which websites though?
You can build a million bridges, but you fuck one single couch, no one calls you a bridge builder.
Vance has been so embroiled in gaffes, he hasn’t even really gotten to expound on any of his “new right” ideas, such as his phony brand of conservative economic populism, or creepy pronatalism, or terrifying techo-authoritarianism.
Trump’s campaign, however, released a statement doubling down on the former president’s increasingly unpopular pick.
“President Trump is thrilled with the choice he made with Senator Vance, and they are the perfect team to take back the White House,” said campaign spokesman Steven Cheung, according to Axios.
Phony, creepy, terrifying.
And Steven Cheung, you need to understand nobody represents trump who doesn’t get shit on. Just saying. It’s your future. Hopefully you can represent yourself at trial.
There must be a correlation with how hard campaigns double down and how close they are to actually reversing course.
Careful - you’re assigning reason, or at least logic, to the party of pizzagate, trump, a stupid failed coup, and drinking bleach.
History teaches us this is where logic and reason come to die.
There is. The more they stumble, the more they are questioned. The answers to the question cannot be anything but utmost certainty because “maybe” is simply not a message that sways anyone.
Pretty answers don’t change reality though, so the stumbles continue or even increase leading to more questions and the doubling down. You just can’t do anything else unless you’re ready to commit to another answer.
Look at all those signs, maybe they can sue the GOP for a refund.
The former president’s allies have acknowledged that nominating Vance was the product of Trump’s absolute certainty that he would be able to defeat Joe Biden in November.
I don’t understand how they thought Vance be better against Biden.
Guy from the rust belt against a guy who was there before it rusted
Cincinnati isn’t really rust belt, but it’s about the only corner of Ohio that isn’t.
Which is funny because the guy from the rust belt is a running mate with guy who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth before it rusted.
It’s not that he thought Vance was better. It’s that he thought Biden was running such a weak campaign that it didn’t matter who he picked as VP and he wanted the Thiel connection (and money) that Vance brings.
Also, Trump didn’t want another strong vp next to him. Dictatorship 101, make sure the next closest person to power is as weak as possible.
Thank you!
hilarious that vance wrote an entire book blaming poor mountain people for causing their own problems and not bootstraps-ing themselves out of despair (like he did, naturally), and is now saying that biden’s america is 100% to blame for those exact same problems
not to mention all the gigabytes of trash he’s talked about trump, whose asshole vance is now slurping with the gusto of a dog in a steak factory
whose asshole vance is now slurping with the gusto of a dog in a steak factory
😆 It’s only 0600 here. I’m gonna call it a day after reading that so that I can end on a high note.
