Wondered where I remembered him from, it was this juxtaposition of photos:
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/gov-tim-walz-signs-universal-school-meals-bill-into-law/
Is he in the Sarah Huckabee photo? I don’t recognize him if he is. That article doesn’t even mention him.
No he isn’t, it’s comparing the two, one is Walz (D) signing a law to bring free lunches for school children in his state, the other is sarah huckabee ® signing a law to claw back child labor laws in her state
I’m not really sure why that would be relevant in this context. Was Huckabee running for VP? Why include her?
Primarily because I was sharing how the photos are linked in my memory.
They’re also chronologically similar, happening within a week of each.
Lastly, they demonstrate stark differences in policies: a win for the new VP pick who, in my opinion, shows someone who actually cares about children and families.
Ok but do you know how many US Governors there are? 55. You picked one at random and threw it into a comment about a totally different person, place, and circumstance. People might mistakenly think Walz was somehow involved in that shitshow.
I can see this from your perspective now, perhaps my context was lacking. I felt it evident as a recollection but those without the context may misinterpret.
As another perspective - it took me a moment or two to work out what was happening in the second picture, but then the whole tableau made sense to me!
I was being a little too aggressive about it, I had a long morning. Sorry.
It took me a bit of morning brain fog processing to understand the context. But then it hit me.
Tim Walz has a history of delighting and helping people, and the excitement of the people (especially the kids) in the room we elated and the picture captured that.
In the other picture, the people that were being "helped’ (again the kids) looked unimpressed and even a little letheragic.
It’s a comparison of how one person & their party can excite & delight while the other person & their party depress.
Just gonna drop this here…
https://www.readingrockets.org/reading-101/reading-and-writing-basics/reading-comprehension
There was a ton of ambiguity in the initial statement. I had to read the statement twice and look at the pictures for a moment before I understood the context in my daily morning brain fog. So I don’t fault them for asking their initial question.
What I do fault them for is doubling down after the explanations.
Gov. Tim Walz signs universal school meals bill into law
vs
Arkansas Gov. Sanders signs a law that makes it easier to employ children
I literally laughed out loud when I read the second headline. The kids faces says it all.
That photo of him! Every person in it is so genuinely happy! Brought tears to my eyes.
Whoa whoa whoa. So Harris is laffin, and Walz is smilin??? Too much happiness.
Hot Damn! The DNC didn’t fuck up so fucking happy to be wrong and she didn’t pick Shapiro.
I’m shocked, honestly. Shapiro is the canonical post-Clinton Democrat, all the consent manufacturers were clearly pulling for him.
As one of the leftmost members of the D voting coalition its a strange feeling to not be getting continuously shat upon.
Yeah well lets hope this all true. All the articles are saying "sources close to " I want to hear it from her mouth. Regardless I am excited about voting for the first time since 2016 when Bernie first ran. Lets fucking go! Only thing stopping us now is if the GOP cheat which I hear they already planning a coup using the courts so lets make it such a huge landslide they can’t win that way.
She posted it to her Instagram:
.Awesome! Thank you I had not seen that.
❤️❤️❤️
Well then every gd progressive who says there are so many better get off their asses and vote then.
Not upset about the pick in the least but this is progressives time to shine.
Yeah I know I’m well into auntie territory because I had the same reaction.
Here is a suggested edit for you, just use this image:
Those poor kids going to work in the mines in the lower pic.
I would also point out, not to give Huckabee any credit, but the silver lining of that bill might allow kids trying to gain freedom from abusive homes, permitting them to go job hunting on their own (although 14/15 seems super young regardless - they couldn’t without someone signing off otherwise). The downsides is parents forcing kids to go to work in dangerous jobs (to your point).
freedom from abusive homes, permitting them to go job hunting on their own
While i see what you’re saying, i think the lede is buried. the important change in law is here:
The state also no longer has to verify the age of those under 16 before they take a job.
The state isn’t even checking how old these children are. And the younger a kid is, the more easily they are exploited. And the power dynamic between boss and kiddo is worse. All this will do is make kids easy to exploit
I don’t have to tell y’all, right? How many hours got stolen from you as kids? Or what kind of crap did you put up with before you knew better?
Without laws letting child workers maintain their own bank account in their own name without parents being co owners allowed to drain it at any time, children working become money pinatas for abusive parents.
I say this as someone who would have benefitted from being independent earlier. My uncle did have me work at 14, and when I went to the bank I found he had stolen every penny, and because I was a minor I had no legal recourse to get it back.
A few years later the courts emancipated me, but it didn’t return the money he had stolen. Mind you, he was not working at the time himself and he got a few hundred from the state a month to care for me, and he spent what he stole on computer parts so he could game.
Children working only is in the child’s benefit if there are ironclad laws allowing them to keep their money, and right now there is not.
The one kid totally has “wtf?” face going on. I feel bad for those kids. Their parents are all probably total scum bags.
They want to be at home playing Roblox, but their parents made them wear ties and have their hair slicked into place. All to support a bill where they’re going to be playing less Roblox.
I am so fucking excited to vote.
Pleasence check your voter registration status, even if you always vote. They are doing what they can, to keep good people from voting.
I am too. I went from being convinced we were heading straight to tyranny and now I am excited for a potential future with actual liberals at the helm.
I’m a registered libertarian. Despite the craziness, I don’t plan on changing that. I wouldn’t have voted for Biden, strictly because I live in a state that has 0% chance of flipping, BUT I routinely vote for democrats in senate/house/local races where my vote actually does make a difference. I also encouraged friends with similar mindsets in battleground states to vote Biden.
I think the democratic party needs to fracture, it just needs to fracture AFTER the republican party.
All of that is a setup to say: I also am excited, and if someone like me is excited, I think that’s a DAMN good sign. I cannot wait to piss and moan about a Harris admin. It is a big damn country, I look forward to disagreement returning to the point it doesn’t result in erosion of fundamental rights and democracy itself, not to mention godamn violent insurrection.
Killing the GOP is in your best interest if fracturing the Democratic Party is what you want. Progressives have been ready to bail since 2016. It’s not likely to make American politics any less statist, though.
Significant electoral reform is the only other path, and any constitutional amendment is not happening without a major cultural shift in partisanship.
By the way for anyone reading that wants the end of the Trump era, I’m also in a 0% chance state, and this will be the first time I vote for the Democrat on the presidential ticket since moving here, and I encourage others in similar positions to turn out and do the same. I always vote third party to give them extra relevance, but this is a year where the popular vote total will matter. Running up the score will be necessary to make false election integrity claims irrelevant.
Killing the GOP is in your best interest if fracturing the Democratic Party is what you want. Progressives have been ready to bail since 2016. It’s not likely to make American politics any less statist, though.
'nuff said. Right there with you. As per the rest, like I said I vote out idiots when I can, and I’m avoiding naming the state because it’s the internet, but we do pretty well in terms of workers rights, civil rights, and healthcare (yes there are libertarians who support MFA etc), so I think it’s important to indicate that, especially for local issues, the national issue of the party means less.
But I hear you and you do you. I’m pretty damn far from accelerationist, but if we really can’t keep to clear cut things like the EC… well… we’ve got far bigger issues.
The only thing that can fracture the two party system is ranked choice or alternative voting systems. FPTP guarantees two parties.
And I can’t wait. I am firmly in support of ranked choice. I think it’s absence is the root cause of a lot of issues and should be a single issue voter issue… second ONLY to the fact that there is a “candidate” in the running who is responsible for a Temu quality coup.
Again (not for you but others), I know the issues of my party. It’s my party not my religion. I am uncomfortable with the compromises democrats make. The thing about coalition governments and multi-party systems is they allow compromises to happen while keeping support and acknowledging they are compromises in the name of pragmatism. It’s the way it should be, it’s how we get the best of all ideas.
There are things that should never be compromised. I’m a libertarian because Obama was in favor of “strong civil unions”, renewed the patriot act, and kept Guantanamo open. In a coalition government, I maybe could have understood that, but that’s the issue: without a coalition, and without ranked choice, those are now principles of the democratic party.
And again, it’s all secondary to being able to vote at all in 2028. Harris is going to have a hell of a time, but I’m excited for it.
In the the absence of Ranked Choice, we likely would need to get involved at the Primary level in order to fundamentally change the party. Primary turnout rates are like 10% or something absurdly low.
Giddyup. In the meantime I’ll vociferously vote for the folks who 1) aren’t seditionist assholes who call my friends non humans 2) don’t use passing point 1 to do other heinous shit. Voting in primaries is paramount, it makes people scared.
The problem is that FPTP massively benefits democrats and republicans so they’re unlikely to want to vote against it. So, to get it passed you’d need to get a third party in power that doesn’t benefit from FPTP. But, you can’t get a third party in power because FPTP makes it virtually impossible to elect third party candidates.
It’s a catch-22 situation.
In Canada the Liberal party made an election promise that they would scrap FPTP if elected. They’re one of two main parties in Canada, along with the Conservatives. Of course, as soon as they won the election, they backed out of that promise.
Wasn’t Maine or some state experimenting with it?
that is not the correct analysis. the correct analysis is that strategic voting in a fptp system leads to party consolidation. the solution is values voting
We can now stand on a solid ticket from top to bottom. Waltz will wipe the floor with Vance.
Waltz will waltz over Vance.
I was going to make a joke about the official state dance but Minnesota oddly does not have one. Another recent VP came from a state without an official state dance cough cough Biden cough cough
Just am fyi - although it is spelled Walz, he pronounces it walls
Republicans wanted to build the Walz. Well now’s their chance!
Everybody anxious about a VP Shapiro can finally get a little bit of sleep now lol
Yeah people were assuming it was him because of the announcement being in Philly when it’s probably just a scheduling question
What’s the nervousness about with regards to him?
He has a lot of baggage that has the potential to tank the ticket and stifle the positive trajectory Kamala has going. Part of her momentum is hoping for a better stance on Gaza compared to Biden and Shapiro would be harmful for that image. You can argue some of it isn’t justified, but politics is more emotional than rational and even past that some of his negatives are tough to swallow - like response to protestors, school vouchers, potential cover-up of an aides sexual misconduct…
It’s just an unnecessarily vulnerable pick.
Thanks, makes sense.
So assuming Harris and Walz are going to be more difficult for Netanyahu to negotiate with, does this increase chances of a ceasefire in Gaza?
Probably.
I would think that it is more likely for Netanyahu to do something desperately stupid before the US election to try to change the conversation. Like start a war with Iran as the October surprise…
Mostly about Gaza. Iirc he was rough on shutting down protests and is pretty pro Israel in general. Not sure if he ever commented on Palestinian civilians directly.
I think this was a poor pick. Penn’s governor was a good candidate, but also didn’t have the George Flyod riots in his political past. You’re already seeing Republicans key in on that.
Shapiro is also very anti-Palestine and centrist so… nobody wants him if they can have Walz instead. Walz has accomplished far more positive things than Shapiro.
We need actual social democrats. The great things our nation has weren’t the things brought on by centrism, but by progressives like FDR. Tim Walz is just that.
Shapiro has a sexual harassment coverup allegation (for a close aide, not himself) and what appears to be serious mismanagement of a stabbing case, where a woman’s death was initially ruled a murder, but ultimately his office refused to re-examine the case. It’s going before the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, and might be heard before the election. Harris doesn’t need an October Surprise to derail her momentum if it makes Shapiro look bad.
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My sister used to be the head of the environmental department of one of the suburbs of Minneapolis. She’s met Tim Walz a few times, and has had nothing but good things to say about both his personality and his attitude toward the environment. The US has pretty slim pickings for good politicians these days, but I really feel that Tim is on that list. I’m feeling hopeful about American politics for the first time since I learned about how American politics works!
There are some people who actively try to make you feel like politics in the US is hopelessly broken and you might as well just give up. There are many, many people who just want to make things better, whether that’s at the federal, state, local, or hyperlocal level. They might disagree on how to do it, and the best ones are the ones that know how to come up with a reasonable compromise when disagreements arise. If you’re interested, always look for opportunities.
This is the most hopeful I’ve felt about an election, and I’ve been voting since 1996.
Madame President Mamala Harris, thank you for making the correct choice.
Good! Harris could have screwed herself with some of the other candidates
Great news
Between the response to this ticket and the big antitrust win today, this is the most optimistic I’ve been about the direction of American politics in a very long time.
Is…is this… Is this what hope feels like? 😔
Whatever it is im killing it before it gets infectious, good work is never done and complacency ensures it wont be strong.
Doesn’t matter if we don’t actually go vote.
So to clarify (after the double negative), it DOES matter to actually go vote.
Yes. Your vote matters.
…Obama had kinda a nice butt
Almost feels like those hopeful Bernie days. Happy to know Walz was his pick too.
I’m in absolute shock that the Dems didn’t go with Shapiro.
I’m not familiar with this man - he seems old?
I was hoping she would go with Buttigieg as he’s a lot younger and has his head screwed on plus is able to go on Fox and leave intact.
he seems old?
Ageism still isn’t cool.
I meant in that it was a primary insult from the right that is sure to come out again as they have a very limited arsenal.
Kinda hard to lob “he’s old” insults when your candidate is 78.
Yeah I know but it probably won’t stop them.
Anyway I think he’s great
He’s 60. One year older than Harris. By comparison, Kennedy is 70 and Trump 78.
Yes but the right will just see aging old grey man.
Which is what they like, go look at the Republicans in Congress.
Oh for sure.
Thankfully the more I see about Walz the more I like.
This is reassuring. I’ve claimed for a while that Dems are excellent political tacticians, but MAN do they suck at the long-term strategies due to being unwilling to play hardball. Meanwhile, the Right are great at long-term strats and often fail when it comes down to making quick, tactical decisions that fall outside their plans. Then Harris here stepped in after an honestly excellent choice by Biden, and we are seeing just how skillful someone on the Left can be when there isn’t any time to be a moron.
Dems, in our own way since 1980.
Half the pictures I see of him, he reminds me Jeffrey Lebowski (David Huddleston).
either that or Werner Herzog
Y’know that works for me
Your revolution is over, Mr. Trump. Condolences. The bums lost. My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Donald?
The bums will always lose!
Where’s the money, Lebowski?
