"I can’t even say how old I am – it’s hard for me to get it out of my mouth. Although I – it’s a great honor being president, I think I have an obligation to the country to do what I – the most important thing you can do, and that is we must, we must, we must defeat Trump.”

— President Biden

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    Single-issue voting is out-of-control. I got accused of being a supporter of genocide because I was enthusiastic about Tim Walz. Like, what!? I don’t think either of us have even been to Palatine or Israel! Donald Trump is the one who supports Netanyahu "finishing the job and annihilating Palestinians!

    We can all pressure our governments to do more but the “Support sending Israel to the Phantom Zone or you’re a Nazi” hyperbole has got to stop. Odd that we only see it in an election year too…

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      These people are not single-issue voters. They’re republican (or other groups in favor of Republicans winning) trolls. They don’t care about Palestine or they would spend even more energy being anti-Trump. It’s always anti-whoever-is-on-the-left though. Sure, they could be more left, but these people don’t care about that.

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      Sure trump supports it. But all biden says is he is disappointed in Bibi and then sends another 3 billion over weekly.

      Yes, Donald trump would be far worse for the US than Kamala. That is without a doubt. That does not mean that the democrats have been good for the US. They are also bought out by corporate lobbies and they are also supporting a genocide.

      People forget that if you choose the lesser of two evils you are still choosing evil.

      Bringing up the fact that he will be remembered in the rest of the world as a genocidal monster does not mean you support the republicans.

      In fact, it is saddening to me that the party that is supposed to be liberal/left wing is in fact center right at the absolute most. This is the same party that thought Hillary Clinton was a good choice, when she would have been a right wing candidate in most western European elections at the time.

      Also, this genocide started October 2023, one year before the election. It’s not like we decided when Israel was going to batshit crazy

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        Wow, do you have a black belt in Whataboutism? Okay, let’s get into it:

        biden says is he is disappointed in Bibi and then sends another 3 billion over weekly.

        Obviously, I understand that this article is about Biden and he’s currently our president. But he also isn’t running for re-election. Many, including myself have criticized him. But in terms of the future, Biden is irrelevant.

        That does not mean that the democrats have been good for the US.

        I’m so sick of this bOtH SiDeS argument, it’s just not fair. Yes, there are wealth-seeking, (and even bad) democrats, but the Democratic party is a “big tent” one that welcomes straight/gay/whatever, white/black/other, rich/poor/middle, etc. But come on. The comparison isn’t accurate. The alternative is Republicans who are Big Business, who want to rule women’s bodies, who want to implement minority rule, who would rather have religious freaks make decisions about your health than your doctor, who want a dictator, and who would let Putin and Netanyahu do whatever the hell they want. Democrats want to give you healthcare. And that comparison is coming from an Independent!

        People forget that if you choose the lesser of two evils you are still choosing evil.

        That implies we have another choice. Technically, sure, but in terms of impact, no. We currently have a 2-party system and Donald Trump is ahead in the presidential race. You can stay home, you can vote for 3rd-party candidate, both will help elect Donald Trump and his authoritarian vision. People can do what they want, but that’s the reality. IF, after the election and we stave off fascism, you want to fight for election reform, I am 100% on board. But until then, it’s a binary choice. We don’t have to like it, but that’s how it currently is.

        it is saddening to me that the party that is supposed to be liberal/left wing is in fact center right at the absolute most.

        Okay…? Yeah, you’re right. Democrats are “American left”, which is the best we can do at this time. Have you been contacting your Representatives and Senator daily to demand they reform our “first past the post” system? No…? Then you can’t demand I quit my job to protest naked and homeless outside the Capitol against both choices who support Israel.

        this genocide started October 2023, one year before the election.

        And? The American election is this November, always has been. I opposed Israel’s actions then and I oppose them now. But an American citizen like myself has very little ability to change what another country does internationally. Even our president doesn’t decide everything. But I do know that demonizing the most pro-Palestinian of our 2 choices is literally helping Netanyahu…

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          Ok, but he is still supporting genocide. Doesn’t matter if he’s running. And Kamala has basically said that anyone who protests the genocide is for trump, which makes no sense and alienates a lot of people.

          Democrats are better than republicans right now, I never said they weren’t. In fact, I said they were. But that does not mean they are good.

          How do you get another choice if you do not stand up and speak against evil? If you just accept this is what we have, then nothing happens.

          Actually I have been campaigning and calling my reps, so not sure what that has to do with anything. I never demanded you quit your job You made that up. Who’s doing what aboutism now?

          You are the one who said why bring it up in an election year. The reason is that it is happening in an election year. When else was I supposed to bring it up? Before it happened? Or ten years after when everyone will say oh wow that was awful?