That was marvelously uncomfortable.
I wanna see Tim Walz do this exact activity… Even better if it was at the same donut place.
Then, when they share it, maybe highlight the weird from the normal? Like a football play by play?
Right wing nut jobs cosplaying as human is always cringe. We have pierre poilievre up in Canada every public appearance is a cringe fest. #RightWingCringe #jd(couchfucker)vance #Canada #SquintyMcProudBoy
What a weirdo
Good for that worker. I never want to be on camera for any reason and would be hiding in the back if this happened to me.
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Aren’t you supposed to plan appearances like this ahead of time to prevent this exact thing from happening?
they’re so full of themselves they cannot conceive of someone who doesn’t want to comply with them and get a moment of fame on TV. that person denying to be on camera probably destroyed his mood for the whole day as he wondered what he did- “there’s no way she hates me so much she doesn’t want to be seen on TV next to me… I’m famous!”
Imagine being born in a position of privledge, and never being told “no” in your entire life. Why would you ever make a plan when you make the subconscious assumption that everyone operates around what you want?
On a related note, this is why “Woke” is so offensive to people like JD Vance. “We were doing just fine before you people started complaining!” is an easy thought to have from the lap of luxuryn
from my understanding (and thats making the whole situation even more baffling) he grew up in a ohioan blue-collar family, which means he probably heard “no” more then enough.
especially regarding the family couch.
Why would you ever make a plan when you make the subconscious assumption that everyone operates around what you want?
Because their whole life has been geared toward allowing them to believe they are entitled to everything.
As always, calling others “entitled” was pure projection.
[insert “Four Seasons Total Landscaping” reference]
They’re all magas here were I work so it didn’t work out as well, but our congressional rep planned a stop over here so I planned a day off. I wish more people would have done that, but I live in asshole land. :/
When I worked at a store that sold guns in 2016, supposedly there was a chance that a certain oddly-colored cheeto would be making a PR appearance after a speech in town.
I straight up told my manager if they actually think it’s a real possibility then I will not be returning to work after my lunch break. I don’t think for a second my threat actually made a difference, but I’d like to think my manager and district manager would take their ONLY trained tech for their most profitable services in 8 states and risk them leaving over a PR stunt they know will piss off half the people who shop there.
However when one of the red hats found out that the district manager called corporate to say it wasn’t a good idea, they quit. Granted, nobody cared since it was their first week, but I know they were talking about being desperate for work they were qualified for that won’t do a background check. So they quit over stupid shit when they apparently needed the money.
Logic is not strong with that crowd.
Plan? The only plan they got is project 2025. I don’t think it spells out how to order donuts without acting weird.
The heritage foundation did serious planning.
Then they outsourced it to these guys, who didn’t do shit.
Imagine ordering ANYTHING as vaguely as “some of this, some of that, whatever makes sense”.
“Sir, that’s not even a real order. I don’t have time for your bullshit.”
Reminds me of customers at the bank I used to work for who would want the teller to pick which account the money went into. Like bro, make an effort.
“Sweet, I’ll put it in mine!”
Planning is only as good as the planner. Sometimes you still end up giving a press conference at the wrong Four Seasons.
Oh for sure, happens all the time, was hardly of note even
Wow, what a charismatic guy, that wasn’t painful to watch at all…
Totally normal small talk, “how long you worked here? How long has this place been open? How about you how long have you worked here? Yeah? Good. How long? Good.”
Confirmed lizard person.
This clip proved to me that couchfucker Vance is definitely not “from the middle class”
Hes obviously never ordered donuts himself. No clue what they are, expects to walk in and get handed a box of glazed donuts and a box of mixed donuts, while people are amazed and happy to have “someone like him” in the store.
He’s the guy in the suburbs with the “cowboy up” stickered lifted fuel tuned diesel on 38’s that he’s upside down on payments on because he spent this months trust fund payout on cocaine and ED pills.
We all know that guy.
The guy with knotted tires run half-baked because he only drives it on paved roads, the dirtiest it gets is when it rains, and the most it’s ever hauled is a kids seat in the back. He was so close to buying a boat but always complains about gAs PrIcEs
What an absolute weirdo. Choosing my (half-)dozen mixed donuts is one of the bigger joys of a donut run.
I mean… if all you ever did was buy donuts at a supermarket, you kind of would expect that.
I don’t buy a lot of donuts (personally not a big fan and they make for weird interactions at work) but when I do? My order is usually “Uh. Three or four boston creme, three or four jelly, and then whatever you have a lot of for the rest”. And I have definitely done the Dunkin run where it is “a box o joe and then two dozen of whatever donuts. Also <insert breakfast standwich here>.”
So I won’t fault couch fucker for having a hard time picking out donuts or basically just saying “I don’t care, just give me two dozen donuts. Feel free to pick the stale ones”. But it is more just the overall shitshow of it for not having someone run up ahead to make sure the store and staff were cool with it.
Story time! Back in… damn I guess it would have been 08? Obama and Biden were doing the “man of the people” bullshit. Incredibly blue region with strong ties to Biden so it was basically a freebie to record a few press bits. Was getting lunch and chatting with a buddy about all the cars on the street and the like when some 20-something year old girl in a suit comes in. She leans in and asks the person at the counter something and then comes around to the various tables to make small talk and ask leading but kind of inflammatory questions. She asked us what our views on abortion were (and, while I won’t repeat what my buddy said because it was definitely sexist, it was quite possibly the greatest failed pick-up line of all time). She then gets up and states something like “In five minutes, Obama and Biden will be walking through that door. We apologize for the inconvenience. As we get closer, anyone who does not want to be on camera will be directed to move over towards that wall. It will only be for ten minutes and we will pay for everyone’s meal, regardless of if you are on camera or not. Thank you”.
And, let me tell you? Buying lunch for a bunch of students goes a long way toward making for a warm reception. And while it was obvious they had been prepped on the menu, it was also obvious that this was the kind of food both future presidents ate semi-regularly. And it was obvious they had been prepped on which tables were likely avid democrats, which were republicans, and which were dumbass kids who were hitting on the point person for the casual “So, what can we do to earn your vote?” style bits.
But… that is kind of the thing. It is not a complicated bit of theatre. I am sure the approach has changed a bit (now that everyone has camera phones and tiktok) but it still holds true. Have someone run ahead to make sure you aren’t entering a hostile situation that will just make everyone look bad.
The anecdote of the recon girl in the suit is one of the most interesting that I’ve read in some time. Totally makes sense that they would do that.
How do folks feel about whether that low level of deceit is appropriate?
When I think about the costs, I think maybe a couple people spent a couple minutes of their time giving opinions they might not have if they had had all the information up front. But tiny hurt feelings seems the biggest downside, I guess, which shouldn’t be too problematic.
Of course if the staffer told the whole truth, an activist could feign support to secure an interaction where they shout down the candidate on their pet issue (“a TAN suit, Barrack?!”).
Personally, I don’t see any deciet here.
Nobody claimed anything, someone just went around asking questions. Personally I wouldn’t care if a red hat came into my Cafe and asked questions like that, and I would give my very strong opinions exactly as I would to anyone else. If they said a republican was about to come in for a PR stunt, I would ask to speak to the owner, and if they’re actually cool with that the they have lost my business.
I still wouldn’t feel like the person who came in was being in nay way subversive.
Honestly if I ran across one of their candidates alone in the middle of the night I might feel the urge to deck them whether I act on it or not, but that exact thing is the reason they should go without stating the reason for the questions and visit fist thing. What if someone were just psychotic and armed? They could quite easily pretend to be the world’s largest supporter in order to get a seat at the next table over for a better shot, instead of the scout saying “that guy in the corner gave strange vibes, better put extra security over there or pass on this one”
Or someone might start throwing shoes…
Great point on safety. Was thinking kinda “lying through omission” but sold.
I’m curious about these weird workplace donut interactions you’ve had.
Like I said, I am not a big fan of donuts. A lot of people aren’t. But there is the expectation that everyone should bow down to the person who brought them to the breakroom and join the mad rush when the email goes out and so forth. Not to mention that some people DO like donuts (more power to them) and might be polite enough to ask if anyone minds if they take a second one which has led to a few slack chats of everyone feeling the need to list that they had 1 and so forth. Which invariably reveals who didn’t have any and leads to “oh, are you on a diet”? level conversations that can make others feel self conscious about their weight.
Personally? I am a big fan of bringing a box to an early morning meeting or whatever. Absolutely hate bringing them to a breakroom or, for the truly deranged, walking them around an office.
Things have gotten a lot better in the past decade or so of “I don’t eat gluten” becoming ridiculously common. But I find it still puts people into unnecessarily awkward situations where one person might think it is a nothingburger of an interaction and someone else might take it as “Are you saying I am fat and need to go on a diet?”
I hate your workplace.
Just err towards too many donuts the first time, and then adjust downward as needed. It’s okay to throw out a few.
And then trust everyone else to be human. If one dude is taking five, someone will eventually give him a “dude, seriously?” and that should be enough. And if it’s not, try to deal with it person to person instead of sending a passive aggressive email about it to two dozen people.
I’ll be honest I think you’re overthinking this
Think whatever you want.
This is the kind of stuff that comes up when you are actually focusing on inclusiveness and discrimination in the workplace (rather than just checking a box for a federal requirement). Something as simple as passing CVs through OCR and standardizing the font (or using those god awful webforms) goes a long way because people genuinely do have an unconscious bias toward one style over another. Similar to evaluating people on things like “poise” or “articulateness”, that is just a REALLY good way to suddenly realize that you hired 90 of the same person.
And that also covers what kind of group activities you have at work. Because someone might seem “stand offish” because they don’t participate in a monthly pizza lunch because they don’t eat meat or just hate the chain the admin’s cousin owns. But now you put them in a position where someone else might think they are standoffish or “too socially awkward to work in a team” which can have career implications.
I’ve never been at a workplace that banned these practices. Likely because… it is a shitshow waiting to happen if anyone ever sees that email and posts online about how Innertrode bans donuts. But it is something that management and project leads are increasingly being made aware of to both curb their own unconscious bias and to avoid creating those kinds of situations in the first place.
Well… Good thing I don’t work in an office. I still think you are overthinking this. Bringing unconscious bias into this is clearly missing the mark. It’s free donuts, not a pizza party.
People don’t like working at an office. I know I didn’t, and I’m so glad I don’t anymore. It’s a small thing that brings a few people just a little bit more joy, and not at the expense of others.
I kinda need to hear the terrible pickup line, though.
Hah. It’s not the first time a Republican has been flummoxed by a cash register.
Not a fan of Bush or the GOP but the Wikipedia article basically refutes that he was flummoxed…
Whereas here Mr. Vance’s cringe is kind of palpable.
Well, now he has my vote! /s
“Look! I totally go out and buy donuts just like you guys! See?! 😉”
ahhh, my eyes 😵
😂😂😂
The only thing he could make conversation about was how old the business was and how long they worked at the donut shop. Aren’t politicians supposed to be charismatic?
Like he was figuring out who he could get fired afterwards for not worshipping him.
He didn’t even ask them what their favorite donut was or about [local sports team] newest season. Pandering isn’t hard, why is he so lazy?
What would you recommend? What are some popular donuts? Hell, he could’ve said to give him a good variety.
It’s hard because he doesn’t give two shits
This is why people say magapublicans are weird, they’re so out of touch!
Has Vance never been in a bakery before!? Quick tip: when they ask you what you want, don’t reply “I mean a lot of glazed here. Some sprinkle stuff. Some of these cinnamon rolls. Just whatever makes sense.”
What?
Try ordering from the menu. Or ask them what’s good. Or request an assortment of the most popular kinds…
If I were trying to be fair, I’d argue that that basically was an attempt to order an assorted dozen, albeit an awkward one.
But fascists don’t deserve fairness, so I won’t.
It’s one donut JD, how much could it cost, $10?
Say a dozen donuts costs… $400. Then the donut concierge tell you a half dozen donuts is $400, that would be shocking, right?
Just whatever makes sense
“…For a photo op, im not eating this pleb shit”
This sounds awfully close to “Dijon mustard on a burger! How out of touch can you be!” Levels of ridiculousness.
Or lean into your stupid richness. Buy five of everything and just start handing them out.
Oh, no. The one thing rich people never want to do is give people handouts!
Rich people want their own handouts cause they deserve it unless those filthy plebs. Those plebs are only taking advantage of the system.
They’d claim they handed them out, but in reality only their team got one each, and the rest were thrown away (and sprinkled with poison to make sure they don’t get pulled out of the dumpster)
I bet Walz stops at a donut shop tomorrow. I think he knows his way around one quite well.
“I mean a lot of glazed here. Some sprinkle stuff. Some of these cinnamon rolls. Just whatever makes sense.”
You gotta see it from their perspective, they’re CEOs (presumably) and aren’t used to knowing the details. They just vaguely point in vague directions (“pitch”) and let the employees figure out the rest.
Don’t ask if anyone’s ever tried fucking the donuts. Don’t ask if anyone’s ever tried fucking the donuts.
“Hasanyoneevertriedfuckingthedonuts??”
"Uhhh… Let’s try this again, Vance. This time, maybe just ask people a simple question. Like, ‘how long have you worked here?’ Or, ‘how long has this place been open?’
And watch the MAGA death threats begin because the donut shop didn’t kiss JDs feet when he walked in
I think it would be very interesting to see how they’d react if maga issuing the death threats started getting anonymous death threats themselves.
