He should resign. He is a spineless piece of trash and will do and say anything for power.
Thats probably why Trump picked him.
Trump picked him because he said he wouldn’t have certified the election in 2020.
No one who voted or will vote for him gives a shit anyway though, so the only way he’s going to go is if R does the right thing which, we know how that will play out.
He didn’t create it, but he should resign anyway because he is a sack of shit.
What a fucking distended asshole.
Prolapsed
and unwashed
goatse
I wish he was Somebody That I Used To Know.
Close enough; it’s what I read when I first saw the word and the sentiment is valid.
His actions say “goatse”, but his soul says “one guy one jar”.
He’s the jar, america is the guy.
I’ll never quit! First attempt… I’ll never leave his side! Second attempt… Oh shit this is real! Fuck that! Yeah Haitians are nice people I shouldn’t have lied! I’m sorry. I’m subjugating, quitting, resigning, whatever you want!
Oh that’s it, just the two? Yeah I’m never leaving his side! Even if Haitians eat all my cats.
I still think someone explained lesbians to him and he got wildly confused.
I could almost buy that given my feelings about the mental capacity of the poster child for failing upwards, but why would he think specifically Haitian immigrants are lesbians? You know, as opposed to “liberals” or “college girls” (to quote the terrible song from that episode of Bill Nye - did you learn gay in college?) or something…
Sometimes, you are genuinely insightfully funny, and sometimes what you post makes me want to vomit.
I appreciate that level of posting. It takes a very special kind of person to strike that balance.
If that’s your jam you should hang out with some line cooks
I don’t have enough drugs to share.
Don’t worry, they got you
Yo line cooks sell the mf drugs
heard
I’m seriously considering getting an “Ohio eats pussy” patch as an Ohio lesbian
Do it! And wear it when you go to vote!
Oh no, I’m so sorry. About living in Ohio, I might.
Have we ever had a presidential candidate swap, and then a VP swap in the same election year before?
Can he be swapped? I thought the reason Biden got swapped is because he wasn’t locked in yet, but now the candidates are locked in.
That’s a good question. Unfortunately we’re living in interesting times.
I’m not so sure that he can be. He was nominated by Trump, and the party as a whole voted on both Trump and Vance, together. Would they need a new convention in order to select a new VP? I don’t know. I don’t think that anything like that has ever happened before, so it would be uncharted territory. Much like if the VP died in office.
They could always say that JD is officially on the ticket, but he is going to resign day 1 and let RFK Jr. have the job…
I’m not entirely sure that the president can simply appoint a new VP once they’re in office, since VP is an elected position.
It’s a fascinating question, and I hope that there’s never any reason to see it answered.
VP can resign at any time though. I’d have to double check, but I don’t think there is a line if succession for the VP, since the President is over the VP, they can just select a new VP, although Congress may have to have a majority vote to accept the appointment.
Now to go check how good my HS government class was almost 20 years ago…
Edit : 25th Amendment, Section 2
Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.
I actually can’t find anything (quickly) about when/how the VP can resign, but I assume they would have to formally submit their resignation in writing, or verbally and directly to the President, who would accept the resignation. As far as I can tell, the VP could resign right after being sworn in.
If the VP spot is vacant, the president selects a new VP who must then be confirmed by the House and Senate; per the 25th amendment:
Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.
Agnew resigned. Nixon nominated Ford to replace. Congress approved the nomination. Ford became vp and became president when Nixon resigned. Ford repeated the process FOR whomever he selected for VP.
We truly do not live in a democracy
Make all the “calls” you want. For someone to voluntarily resign under these circumstances, they need to feel guilt/shame. I’m not sure Vance is capable of either. He will not resign.
They invented “fake news”
Hopefully it drags down the whole trump campaign.
Weren’t the republicans just saying something to the effect of ‘the ballots can’t be changed this late, you have to stick with the nominated ticket’?
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The crazy thing is: If he hadn’t admitted this, there wouldn’t have been calls for his resignation. The Republican party is fine with spreading harmful misinformation, but admitting to it is a no-go.
The Republican party needs to have plausible deniability. In the conservative playbook, it’s okay to repeat things that they know for a fact are untrue, or to tell a lie of omission to further their agenda, because they can always walk it back at the point in time which they are receiving blowback by saying they didn’t know it wasn’t true or that they didn’t have all the facts at hand. Assuming that the lie doesn’t manifest itself into truth or that there are enough people who care enough about the real truth to bother fact checking it at all to the point where it would necessarily generate any kind of controversy.
This was Vance saying the quiet part out loud, probably by accident, and his pivot was not convincing at all.
He broke kayfabe.
He should definitely resign from the Senate. I’m not sure if he’s legally allowed to back out of the VP nomination.
He can’t be forced to serve but it may be too late to get his name off of ballots. I’m pretty sure the rules for that vary by state, though. We’ve already then through this once this year with RFK.
Its about time there is some accountability for spreading such falsehoods. Does Libel not apply to this, or any law? Come on, he endangered an entire group of his own constituents. They are legally here.
The law doesn’t apply to them.
It’s very similar to the concept of blood libel I think, just directed at a different group than that term usually refers to. Which, given what that kind of thing historically has led to, is extremely concerning coming from such a public figure.
It is extremely concerning, and it is not just this. They have been talking about mass deportations all year.
Unfortunately and with deep regrets, I think it’d be tough. From https://lipskylowe.com/when-are-false-accusations-of-racism-defamation/ there are four points:
False Statement about the target was stated as fact (not opinion)
Publication or communication of that statement to a third person
Fault on the part of the person making the statement amounting at least to negligence
Harm to the subject of the statement (damages)Considering how hard he’s publicly pushed the story as a true fact, I think prongs 1 and 2 have been met. Alas, I can see 3 being not reached (he checked with his constituents who claimed the story was true and a judge accepts that as sufficient due diligence).
And 4 would be the hardest - how does one prove damages (like a dollar amount) and that they were specifically caused by his comments?
It’d be hard but I thinks a case can be made by analyzing violence against the Haitian community before and after the comments. We have a date for when it was said, which can serve as our starting point for after. It might not be the easiest but its definitely within reason. On top of it all, I’m tired of this and thats by design. To so obviously be trashing and damaging these communities, but due to the law still have believable excuses. Its bullshit. We know and so do the rubes.
People need to call it what it is, as often as needed: stochastic terrorism
Lying bullshit would probably mean more to the masses
I’m down for whatever gets the spotlight shone
I agree with that
Accountability? For republicans? You must be new here.
I would rather have this cat turd in jail for trying to get innocent people killed.
RFK incoming!
You mean the guy who has probably actually eaten someone’s cat? Lord knows he’s eaten everything else.
Calls for J.D. Vance to resign
Lmfao, good luck with that, guy is on the power trip of his life, and the only way to be rid of someone like him is by force.
Or if Walgreens is out of mascara
