While Dick Cheney has endorsed Harris, there have been no comments from other senior Republicans from Bush’s era

The MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell this week hit out at George W Bush, the Republican former president, for refusing to weigh in on America’s looming presidential election.

“All any decent person wants him to do is to say, ‘Don’t vote for Donald Trump, and here’s why,’ and he won’t even do that,” O’Donnell told the Fast Politics podcast, of the Republican president who was in office from 2001 to 2009.

Increasingly, Bush – and some other top Republicans from his political era – are looking lonely in their ongoing refusal to take a side in an election in which many have warned that US democracy is under threat from Trump’s open sympathies with autocracy.


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    9 months ago

    That would be his chance to do something decent for once.

    Reminds me of when Pink wrote a song for him Dear Mr. President and we thought he is the worst that can happen…
    “How do you sleep while the rest of us cry?”

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    Honestly find it odd that he hasn’t come out for Harris considering he’s the first one to look at President Trump and say “this is weird shit”. It’s not like Bush is in politics anymore I don’t see how ditching Trump would hurt him in any way

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    9 months ago

    I mean, who’s surprised by this? Dubya was always a dumbass, and essentially the beta version of Trump.

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        People keep repeating that, where was this intelligence when he was president?

        And on that note, what actions have ever displayed this “quite intelligent” side?

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          W was an actual Yale graduate and if you look at clips from his governorship of Texas you will see a person who could speak coherently in complete sentences and everything. Republicans have long targeted people with a fifth-grade level of comprehension and fake being that stupid. Trump’s only real innovation is targeting people with a third-grade level of comprehension.

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            That doesn’t really provide evidence of him being smart. Which goes back to my point, there isn’t enough actual examples out there of him being smart. Being able to talk just means you’re not very stupid, smart is a higher bar.

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                Well my original comment was about people saying he is smart. Not being dumb doesn’t not automatically mean you’re intelligent.

                No one is saying he is actually stupid, but I’m calling BS on him being “smart” given how there actually has never been any evidence of that.

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          George Lakoff is on record saying he heard him give a speech displaying masterful rhetoric. Then he lost an election to a “bubba”, and vowed, quote, “I’m never gonna get out-bubba’d again”.

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        Not sure he was even a shit speaker if we compare him to Trump. His sentences at least made sense. I’m sure he just wants to be done with it all. He retired from office 15 years ago, and he lives in Texas I thought. If he endorses Harris, Trumpees will lash out at him. We can call that cowardly to not speak out do to fear of retribution but he is 78 years old. 78 year olds shouldnt be key factors in planning for our futures, they should be relaxing and planning their next health care visits that we have figured out a way they can access. The average male in the U.S. dies at 74. Let the old man paint a few more pictures on canvas if so chooses and pass in his time. That said… Wish Trump would do the same.

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          The poster did say he was an asshole. Bush was elected to be the governor Texas and held onto the presidency - he wasn’t a dumbass.

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      W was always a tool, a blank slate for his owners to use. The guy has no thoughts of his own so I’m not surprised.

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        He may not have been a genius mastermind but he’s smart enough not to be absolved of the evils he committed. Blank slate is a juuuuust a bit too far for me

        Just saying

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    ‘Morally Indefensible’ - but Adolf Hitler will not come out against drinking cow’s milk.

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    The need for validation from war criminals is the problem along with this silent shift to the right by Dems. This would be a good time for Dems to actually become a party for the working class/poor.

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    I’d venture to guess that the dude has just checked out from politics and world events entirely.

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        I’ve studied political science, economics, and history for ten years. Most don’t have the time and resources. My mistake was engaging the echo chamber with something so complicated.

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          insert Skinner meme here

          “It must be everyone else that’s wrong.”

          It’s not actually that complicated. Every living former president, including the one the article is about, has made endorsements either in this or a previous election.

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          And the proof several others posted about former presidents endorsing candidates, including George W. Bush doesn’t mean anything because you are the authority here?

          Maybe presidents shouldn’t endorse, but not everything is as it should, because you said so. And just because it shouldn’t you can’t just say it isn’t, as if it were a fact.

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            Reagan changed many paradigms for the worse. I’d bet the majority here couldn’t name his predecessor without looking it up, let alone the legislative majorities and legislation.

            I’m going to go do something more productive.

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              Yeah, man. This crowd doesn’t really care about the point you were trying to make. Lemmy just wants to vote their feelings.

              Don’t sweat it.

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                Don’t sweat it.

                Your lack of care (and history of shallow reasoning and arrogance) is why everything increasingly sucks.

                This crowd… Lemmy

                This crowd isn’t representative of Lemmy whole.

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        They’re wrong to do so. It’s an old tradition intended to ensure peaceful transfer of power and avoid hegemony. They disrespect the office.

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          A tradition like president candidates releasing tax returns or presidents making White House visitor logs public or staying out of justice department actions or not personally profiting off the presidency or…

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            A tradition like president candidates releasing tax returns or presidents making White House visitor logs public or staying out of justice department actions or not personally profiting off the presidency or…

            Yes. Much of the precedent that constitutes a “good” President was established by the actions of Washington and Adams.

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          They disrespect the office.

          An endorsement disrespects the office, but Trump shitting all over the office, and every citizen isn’t. Yeah you can fuck right off with your disingenuous bullshit.

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      Sure, go ahead and try to execute the VP, overturn election results, completely stonewall judicial appointments, but actually calling out a traitor is a bridge too far.

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    big fucking tough guy when it comes to sending other peoples’ kids out to die for a bullshit war based on outright lies

    but when it’s time to actually take the correct stance on something, he buckles like a lawn chair under the average cod cosplaying maga chud

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      I’m pretty sure his endorsement would be a negative. Same when the Cheney one, I can’t think of anyone that would look at that and be like: yes, I’ll go with Cheney. If everything it would turn people off.

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        I think you’re right, but I’d like to believe there was at least one person out there that thought, “Shit, I’d better vote for Harris, or he might shoot me in the face!”

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      cod cosplaying maga chud

      Had to recalibrate my mental image from the fish costume I imagined before remembering that Call of Duty exists 😄

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      I was living in NYC before and after 9/11.

      The Ground Zero pit stayed undeveloped until 2007 because that’s how long it took the money men to decide which insurer would pay for what. George W. never bothered to push them to hurry things, because it was vital that every single penny be accounted for. No problem with starting a war with lies, but money must be guarded to the utmost.

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    Second worst president ever.

    He’s considered a war criminal in most countries outside of North America and Europe.

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      Still waiting to see W, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz convicted of war crimes for all the torture they oversaw at those cia black sites, among other things. Absolutely villainous.

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        Bush and Cheney basically fabricated the entire Iraq War and the only people to come out on top were Exxon Fucking Mobil who took majority control of the Iraqi oilfields, and then the executive in charge of the operation, Rex Tillerson, got appointed to the Trump admin.

        Thousands dead for greed. America’s hands stained in blood and grease for generations.

        Still only second worst tho, no disagreement on that.

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          Bush and Cheney basically fabricated the entire Iraq War and the only people to come out on top were Exxon Fucking Mobil

          Be fair. Halliburton did pretty well for themselves as well.

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        Wow, Rumsfeld died three years ago - I hadn’t heard that. Death at age 88 is almost infant mortality for a war criminal Republican. Count Dracula-Wolfowitz is still going strong, however.

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    Bushes are morally bankrupt anyways. Two war criminals and one of the Laura killed her friend in a car accident where she ran a stop sign.