• Spiffz@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    I think it would be pretty hilarious if this was the thing that got Trump in jail. Aaaaaall the other stuff? Nah. but this Springfield hoax? Yeah we got to do something about that.

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    9 months ago

    Tempted to remove as “Fox by Proxy” but here’s an alternate source which confirms the story and raises an excellent point:

    https://www.npr.org/2024/09/25/g-s1-24436/haitian-group-charges-trump-vance-springfield

    “If it were anyone else other than Trump and Vance who had done what they’ve done — wreak havoc on Springfield, resulting in bomb threats, evacuated and closed government buildings and schools, threats to the mayor and his family — they would have been arrested by now,” Chandra said. “They are not above the law.”

    Chandra said the U.S. Supreme Court’s July ruling granting ex-presidents broad immunity from criminal prosecution does not apply in this case because Trump is currently a private citizen and Vance was not acting in his capacity as a senator when he amplified the rumors that members of Springfield’s 15,000-member Haitian community were eating people’s pets.

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    9 months ago

    Stochastic terrorism needs to have more severe criminal penalties for career politicians specifically. Right-wing figureheads have been getting away with this shit for too long.

    We’re now penalizing the parents of school shooters, so if we find out that someone who threatens to bomb a school is a super fan of X person, then X person should face some sort of penalty if they continually put out deliberate lies about said school. We did a version of this with Alex Jones already, just follow through with that logic honestly.

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    9 months ago

    “There’s nothing special about Trump and Vance that entitles them to get away with what they’ve done and are doing,” the attorney added. “They think they’re above the law. They’re not.”

    Except for the Senate Republicans who would not hold their own accountable for crimes they committed or the federal supreme Court Justice feeding Trump’s attorney legal advice to use in the lower courts. And the billions in PAC funds and trinket grifts used to campaign for politicians and appoint judges who are loyal to them above the Constitution and citizens. And anything Trump did as president is legal if he says it was part of the job. Except for those facts sure they’re just like you or me in the eyes of the law.

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      9 months ago

      Yeah, you can’t even pretend that Trump isn’t above the law when the Supreme Court has literally ruled that he is at their discretion.

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        9 months ago

        Technically the ruling was for crimes official acts he committed while in office.

        He’s no longer president and holds no privilege, except being the Republican nominatee for President. Which apparently is a protected class.

        • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          9 months ago

          even as a president, this wouldn’t be protected under the immunity act, only presidential actions. Speaking to the public, as far as i am concerned is not considered to be a core “presidential action” in the government.

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          9 months ago

          Correct. Regardless, it has been codified that he IS above the law in some cases. Slippery slope is not a fallacy in this instance.

  • The Pantser@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Well that’s one way to keep them out of your city while campaigning. Can we do that here in MI? I’m sick of them being here every week.