The Green Party leader has hired a GOP consulting firm and worked with Trump-affiliated lawyers.

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    Democrats litigate to deny a candidate ballot access, candidate hires non-democrat lawyer to defend herself and democracy.

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      Probably quite a few “non-democrat” lawyers that didn’t storm congress. Weird how she chose one who did and that wasn’t a dealbreaker for her. 🤔

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        Are you saying no lawyer should represent a defendant? If those lawyers didn’t represent the defendants, who would? The Constitution mandates that defendants have competent legal representation.

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                Oh. This thread has s lot of comments, it’s hard to keep up. I wonder why no one’s filed a bar complaint? Thanks for the correction. That’s food for thought.

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        Oh yeah you knew all about this firm and all of its members activities before this story. Theres just so many ballot access consultancy firms specifically fighting against democrats efforts to obstruct democracy.

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      …I would argue that even insurrectionist is being far, far too lenient. They should be called terrorists. But, yeah, calling them “rioters”…barf.

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        They should be called terrorists.

        Stein’s campaign also paid $100,000 to a consulting firm, Accelevate, that has worked with Republican campaigns for signature-gathering services.

        This is now the bar for “terrorism”?

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          Um, what? I’m commenting on the corporate media’s insistence on calling the insurrectionists “rioters”. I think even the term insurrectionist is a bit of a euphemism.

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            I’m commenting on the corporate media’s insistence on calling the insurrectionists “rioters”.

            Oh, that. I mean, that was a riot in a very classic sense. To call it an insurrection feels romantic, relative to what amounted to a massive adult baby temper tantrum that left a handful of people dead. Insurrections tend to have stronger leadership and more strategy.

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              That is a shockingly harsh sick burn. Holy shit.

              Edit: still love it. Can’t stop thinking about how well this casually and truthfully states it.

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        you: le government is bad, crooked and corrupt. We must seize the means of production!

        also you: omg, those inshurexionists… they made the government poopy their pants and punched some cops (we love cops now) TERRORISTS!

        Is this even real?

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          they made the government poopy their pants

          If this had been a private property owned by one of your favorite mega-corps rather than the legislature’s main office, I suspect you libertarians would be singing a different tune.

          What is it about the Non-Aggression Principle that just melts away for the Reich-Wing Party when its a mob of anti-immigrant psychos busting a cop’s head open with a flag pole?

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          I mean if you believe in democratic ownership of the economy then trying to undermine the democracy is basically treason.

          Reality though is we’re voting for one faction of elites and another, less competent but more brutal set of elites via an election that has the trappings of democracy. Stealing that is depriving the public of the tiny crumb of choice we have, which honestly should bring out the bloodlust against the Jan 6th people. Why take away our final bit of control?

          You’re basically making the argument “Its just a crumb of democracy, why bother?” but for most people in the US it is the last remaining crumb of control over our government and expecting people to surrender it entirely to elites is some insane shit.

          Elites here are generally the economic elites: Musk, Gates, Bezos, other corporate CEOs who would love nothing more than to take away the public’s final bit of influence over government.

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          Nuance would be your friend, if you understood it. There’s a difference between a fascist uprising, a populist uprising, and a revolution. At this point the leftists understand that one can be far more effective online than in person, and they are killing you into a false sense of security. Marx is your friend, especially Groucho and Karl. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, and Adolf Eichmann are not.

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            Looking realistically at the situation, it was an ineffective riot by some clods. Knowing that and watching the politicos cower for once should bring joy to the heart of anyone who has had to deal with the system. I mean… unless you actually are a statist at heart. Then it was a great insult to the power structure.

            Whoever swallows the rrats and takes great offense literally outs themselves. I’m sure they’ll downvote away but fake internet points don’t take away the stench of being a phony.

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              Ahh, thanks for clearly stating where you align. I’m no statist, but just from your description, you’re clearly a statist apologist.

              Disregarding the fact that that particular insurrection was incited by a sitting president, those insurrectionists were and are unrepentant bigots that chose violence over the social contract. That you defend them in any aspect merely shows your own reliance on the status quo.

              Come back to me when you are actually willing to throw your own comfort aside, when the cops are around. I do so every single time I see a fucking pig.

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                Come back to me when you are actually willing to throw your own comfort aside, when the cops are around. I do so every single time I see a fucking pig.

                Based

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          Ahh yes, seizing the means of production by nullifying a democratic election. Look at what the longshoremen are doing on the East Coast, that is seizing the means comrade.

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          Honestly, I think the mods should be promoted to sainthood for the level of patience they’ve shown with Monk (who as of late runs what seems to be a community related to MGTOW but without the toxicity called MRTOW) is so beyond what I feel I’m capable of. I hope Monk appreciates the level of leeway they’ve been given here.

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              The fact you weren’t perma-banned for the amount you spam this community with propaganda is unambiguous proof that you’re treated with kid gloves.

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                Dude, I just came off of a 3-day ban for “sealioning.” And the mods have mentioned more than once that they think I have idiotic opinions.

                You think that stuff is kid gloves?! Say wat, mate?! lol

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            I’m honestly not sure if sainthood is the way I’d put it. It feels negligent to me. But in fairness I’d love to hear the mods perspective on what they consider the threshold for trolling. It almost feels like it’s a secondary offense here. Like they won’t ban you for trolling, it’s got to be trolling aaaand [pejoratives|hate speech|etc].

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            Is this MRTOW/MGTOW just mask-off incel shit? I think it would fine to ban that level of toxicity permanently.

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              Except that MRTOW expressly doesn’t allow the toxicity. I’m not an incel. I have a gf and kids.

              Now if you wanna make an argument that I’m an idiot or something, ok, cool. But MRTOW is just celebrating men not actually getting married because the justice system is still skewed in a lot of ways when it comes to division of assets. It’s not anti-women. It’s anti-marriage. I love women, just not marriage. MRTOW is not related to the current MGTOW movement–which IS incels now.

              Thank you!

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        I love how the one downvote on this comment only appeared after a certain someone’s ban had expired 🤣

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    Since when do we care what she does with Russia’s money?

    Seriously though… the propagandists are swinging for the fences here today! Sheesh! The comments are something else!

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    Did nobody here read the article?

    A spokesperson for Stein said she was unaware of Pool’s reported connection to Jan. 6; a lawyer for Pool insisted his client was filming a documentary, not taking part in the attack.

    Just because you’re somewhere people are doing bad things doesn’t mean you’re in support of it, especially if you’re filming them doing bad things…

    The real story here is that she had to pay any law firm at all to fight against the Democratic party to get on the ballot, because the Democratic party is suing to undermine democracy.

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      Riiiight. She was totally unaware of it. Because Russian shills are notorious for being honest about their deceit.

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          Oh I read it. I think she’s full of shit like she has been the entire time.

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                They keep referencing what Jill said, which tells me they didn’t read it. I didn’t say anything about what Jill said. I referenced the fact that they were making a documentary about the event. And they literally condemned it as an “attack”. Insurrectionists defend the insurrection

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                  She’s a Russian shill. That’s what the article says. I fail to see why you’re here defending it still.

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      There’s what they claim they were there for that hasn’t been litigated yet and what they are seen on video doing (carrying around a bike rack style blockade and waving a gadsen flag). This is completely ignoring the recent assault charges they’ve received these are both easily found online.

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      Yeah. While I think its wack to vote 3rd party given the risks of a republican win with anything nowadays. Stein has been around for awhile and if she was motivated by a win at all costs type thing she would not be part of the green party. I mean she could have easily ran for house or senate as a democrat and likley have had a political career for the last few decades.

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      That is a tough call for sure. I’d have to see their down ballot votes before I decide. If they took time out of their day to be a full clown, yeah, at least the person sitting it out didn’t waste any paper while doing nothing.

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    Nothing about this story or Jill is important except for one thing. She is aligned with Putin in denying Ukraine weapons to defend itself. She may not be purposefully supporting Putin but she is supporting his position and making his position stronger ignoring Putin’s past.l patterns of behavior.