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          I already said that the Dems believe they can court some of the pro-frack without losing the anit-fracks. I think this is wrong, but that’s why they are doing this.

          You just don’t agree with the strategy, but it’s still the answer.

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            I already said that the Dems believe they can court some of the pro-frack without losing the anit-fracks

            58% want to ban, they don’t need any pro-fracking votes…

            This is common everywhere fracking has been done, the people that live around it don’t want it.

            And Dem voters across the country don’t want.

            So Kamala being pro-fracking is zero gain of votes, and hurts the environment making climate change worse.

            I asked for a valid reason, it’s apparent you won’t give one. There’s no point in anything else if you still don’t get it.

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              No the problem is you need to define valid for everyone else. You not liking a valid reason doesn’t make it less valid. Clearly this word means something different to you in this context.

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      9 months ago

      Fracking switches from being an issue between candidates to not being one. It isn’t like Trump is anti-fracking.

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            9 months ago

            1. Pennsylvania is a battleground state Kamala might not win.

            2. 58% of voters there want to ban fracking.

            3. Both candidates are pro-fracking.

            4. Kamala changing her stance to against fracking will help get votes, win Pennsylvania, and stop trump.

            I’m sorry if what I’m saying still isn’t clear, but I can think of no simpler way to put it, I wont see anymore of your replies so if you still need assistance ask someone else

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              9 months ago

              Kamala changing her stance to against fracking will help get votes

              And I’m asking how. What person voting for President is making being against fracking the reason for their vote? Who is the single issue voter against fracking?

              Yeah, 58% of Pennsylvania voters don’t like fracking, but who is going to change their vote because of this shift, either to Trump or to third party?

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                And I’m asking how. What person voting for President is making being against fracking the reason for their vote? Who is the single issue voter against fracking?

                I’d not discount the single issue voter yet.

                Yeah, 58% of Pennsylvania voters don’t like fracking, but who is going to change their vote because of this shift, either to Trump or to third party?

                The former? No one. But to a third party like Stein, that’s a lot more plausible. We’re already seeing this elsewhere (e.g. with Muslim voters endorsing Stein due to Harris not being strong enough on protecting Gaza) so worrying about a single issue vote can make sense here.

                Ultimately though I agree with you - Harris is likely to gain more from the moderate Republican never trumper pro fracking votes than she’ll lose from the single issue anti-fracking votes.