I thought it’d be a pain but installing programs through the terminal is actually so nice, I never would have expected it
Also, updates.
“hey computer! Update!”
“Sure thing, here is a list of 57 packages I will update, y/n?”
“y”
“ok… done!”
👌
But how do Linux users handle the crippling loneliness of their operating system not pestering them with ads on every update? How else can you know if your computer loves you? Where is the warmth of the corporate embrace?
They discontinued that native app and have a kinda broken pwa. But open-source community delivers.
We shitpost on Lemmy and start flame wars about vi vs. emacs, X11 vs Wayland, sysvinit vs systemd, snaps vs flatpak, etc.
All of those wars have long since ended.
Neovim, Wayland, Systemd and Flatpak have won.In Emacs I can annotate pdfs.
who the fuck does that in a text editor??
Emacs has a text editor???
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Despite my joke, I’m on the Emacs side of this war.
/me eating popcorn as a nano user
KurtVonnegut does that
The war is over but battles still rage on. Some people really hate the concept of standardization.
Would agree, but Wayland is still broke on nvidia 2060 mobile (got the laptop before I switched to Linux and it doesn’t have integrated graphics either *cough*HP*cough*) so I have to stick with X11 for now… *sigh* I really wanted to try out SwayFX and Hyprland too
“Welcome to Costco. I love you.”
I really wanted mr. Satya to watch my screen with Recall 😥
Sometimes I run the update command and there hasn’t been an update since yesterday. I think that’s pretty close.
there is nothing to do ;_;
plus it makes you feel like a hacker for a few seconds
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New copypasta of 2025:
I use Arch btwI use Mint btwIt’s actually I use NixOS fwiw
“Hey computer, I don’t like when you ask for that confirmation, just do it”
“Oh,
-y, I got you”
- tab completion works in more places than you might expect
- ctrl-a/ctrl-e for start/end of line
- ctrl-u to clear the command you’ve typed so far but store it into a temporary pastebuffer
- ctrl-y to paste the ctrl-u’d command
- ctrl-w to delete by word (I prefer binding to alt-backspace though)
- ctrl-r to search your command history
- alt-b/alt-f to move cursor back/forwards by word
- !! is shorthand for the previous run command; handy for
sudo !! - !$ is the last argument of the previous command; useful more often than you’d think
which footells you where thefooprogram is locatedls -lacdwithout any args takes you to your home dircd -takes you to your previous dir- ~ is a shorthand for your home dir
- alt-. also pastes the last argument of the previous command (useful if you need to modify it a bit)
- instead of any shortcuts starting with “alt” you can also press “esc” followed by the second key, e.g. pressing “esc”, releasing it and then “a” is the same as pressing “alt-a” (useful if you have only one hand available, or if alt is not availalble)
- if you put a space before a command, it will not be saved in history (useful sometimes, e.g. if you pass a password directly as an argument)
Makes me realize just how illogical and bad these shortcuts are
I believe, these are Emacs shortcuts. There’s also
set -o viin bash, but I’ve never used it, so can’t vouch for it.Explains why they are so illogical! Unfortunately i think its better to just learn the defaults since i remote into lots of servers where i dont carry my config
Nice list, TIL about
Ctrl+UandCtrl+Y.If I may add,
Ctrl+XintoCtrl+Eopens$EDITORto edit the current line.I’ve been using the commandline for so long but was always too lazy to look up the rest of these commands after ctrl+a/e and ctrl+r THANK YOU!!!
post this commend again and again! There’s always lazy idiots like me who will be helped that way!
The Windows terminal has some very good commands. ‘ssh username@server’ can log you right into a Linux machine!
I setup open SSH on windows so you can swing it both ways!
My main gripe is it runs cmd.exe and I gotta powershell to jump into that. If you auto powershell it doesn’t work right.
Times like this make me miss reddit gold
Just make a $2 donation to their host. Much better than reddit gold.
Lemmy Lemon 🍋?
Just donate $5 to your instance or the lemmy devs.
Nope.
I once installed HP shitbox printer drivers from the command line in 30 seconds, and the shitbox printer just…worked.
My heart soared higher than the eagle. I touched the face of the one true FOSS God, and felt that thing when astronauts have epiphanies about the Earth. 10/10, would recommend.
The moment I loved the FOSS community was when I went on an Linux IRC channel, complained about my wifi not working, and some stranger messaged me detailed instructions with a patch in 20 minutes that completely fixed my issue.
At the same time it encourages people to just trust whatever people are telling them to input in the terminal, which is potentially dangerous.
Piping curl into sh is sadly a very common install method these days
But you are right
Mine worked out of the box on mint. Like, it detected the network HP shitbox and I could print, no user intervention. I was floored.
Same on most distros I’ve tried recently. Fedora, OpenSUSE, CachyOS, Bazzite. Not vanilla Arch obviously
I once plugged my linux laptop into the scanner and it just worked
I spent days tinkering with proprietary, outdated (seriously, win XP as target) programs that provide sort-of drivers, and nothing worked, on windows.
I think that is just wildly amazing that printer drivers in Linux so often just work. I plugged in a wireless printer the other day and the hardest part was connecting it to the network. Once that was done BOOM Ubuntu found it and I could print. Those driver maintainers are doing a great job!
Funnily enough, you have the Apple folks to thank for that.
sane-airprint is a Mac invention, but Macs use the common Unix printer system, so Linux benefits from itCapitalism vs Communism on a small scale
One is “We’re not making profit anymore, so not paying anyone to do this. Also not publishing the source because of IP.”, the other one is “I have fun doing this, I think I’ll adapt the driver to my printer. Open ofc, so others can benefit, while all others, including me, benefit from others achievements.”
Welcome in from the cold. We have hot cocoa and blankets.
Just wait until you find the fun TUI utilities, ill share a few:
- Shell: Fish (has powerful auto-complete, very fast, written in rust)
- Montior: Btop (monitors all system resources and processes)
- Fetch: Fastfetch (perfect for showing off on !unixporn@lemmy.world, for !unixsocks@lemmy.blahaj.zone Hyfetch is reccomnded)
- Brower: BrowSH (its a browser in your terminal)
- Text Editor: Vim (the best text editor, remeber to use esc + : + q to close or wq to write close vim. However when you open vim you can never quit)
- File manager: Ranger (if cd + ls is too inconvenient)
- Games (yes you can even play games in the terminal): 2048, Chess-TUI, NSnake, and Micro Tetris
When the GUI fails, Terminal will have your back; can I get an Amen?
When my computer starts to run out of ram and I immediately try and switch into the CLI so I can launch htop and kill the offender
find the traitor and kill him!
It’s usually Minecraft or Firefox
Amen. Hallelujah! AMEN! Ooh yeah brothers and sisters, AaaAAaAmen!
PS: this is not a cult BTW
It is, but it’s a very nice cult.
You’ve taken your first step into a larger world.
Isn’t it fun? It’s like owning your car and learning what everything actually does, and figuring out how to fix it. And having an amazing community to boot!. I enjoy it.
I’m thinking of making Linux my daily driver apart for some software I need for work. People are super positive about it on here, but isn’t it still the case that some peripherals won’t work? Or that I’ll spend a ton of time making the system work instead of actually using the system?
It would be for gaming that I’d use the Linux installation mostly.
Speaking from personal experience but pretty universal one at that.
Once terminal kinda “clicks” you will get the urge to tweak stuff. It happens because there is bunch “demo apps” that are just cool to mess around with but simply don’t get known on co-orperate OS. Check this as example.
If games you play or tools you use can be fitted to linux, at some point you will port 80% of your workflow just messing around during the tweaking. Like when you do your first rice.
And after that you can confidently chose if you want to add on to that or continue dualboot.
It’s insane to me that Windows still doesn’t have a proper package manager. When you need to upgrade a program you’re expected to go to their website and download the latest version, or update it with its own update mechanism.
They do, several third party options and of course the Microsoft store too. It’s the users who are stuck in their old ways, which ironically is the harder way. Weird.
i mean its just a matter that app makers avoid the windows store. the only companies i recall I remotely use on the windows store are nvidias control panel (which is ironically being depricated for nvidia app and updates itself).
companies just don’t want to use the windows store aome because of the fear at some point if microsoft wants to take a cut of profits, they could strong arm it like android/ios/game console OS. Linux has the advantage that people will trust that repositories wont be paid.
Just wait when you try AUR on arch systems. I was long time ubuntu based user but once I tasted rolling release and AUR I don’t want to go back.
It is going to make to want to go back
Someday
When you least expect it, and have a deadline
For me that day was yesterday. Ran an update. Next bootup got a black screen.
Saw it as a sign that it’s time to distro hop again lol
I know the feeling! I’ve been happily rolling with opensuse tumbleweed for almost a year now. Btrfs rollback is a life saver (2 times). Less than 5 minutes for a rollback. Other than that, pretty solid…
I installed mint yesterday and am having a PAIN installing anything not in the software manager. Currently stuck on teamspeak as my first thing to try. Got a tar.gz and can’t find anything well explained online (as of yet, it was already 3 hours just to get mint to dual boot and I was exhausted)
With .tar.gz software usually the steps are:
- Extract the archive
- Find a file with the .sh extention - that’s the shell script. It will most likely be named something like install.sh
- Make it executable - by right clicking and enabling it in the properties or by opening a terminal in this folder and using a command:
chmod +x install.sh- Run the installer in the terminal:
./install.shIt might ask you to run it as root and quit. In that case put a sudo before the command above and it will ask you for your password
sudo ./install.shAnd tbat’s it, installation should begin. Follow the instructions in your terminal.
Can’t say for TeamSpeak, but will say for Linux: setting everything up and figuring out your steps in edge cases is the hardest part. Once you figure it out, it gets so much easier.
https://flathub.org/ is a great way to manage linux apps/programmes. Very easy and several other benefits
Madthumbs in shambles
Every now and then I have to analyze some data at work, and gladly I have full access to my work station, so I have WSL2 with Linux, and I wouldn’t know what to do without all that Linux CLI goodness. A mixture of Pipes, xsltproc, jq, Python to get the numbers out of millioons of log lines or xml or json files. If I was stuck on Windows the tasks would be tedious.
Realistically the simplest way to think about it is a text based file manager that can run programs, you could literally ignore it and use it to just install and update, if GUI’s your thing.
