The West was moving to the right — and then Donald Trump got elected again

Something is happening among America’s allies, and it’s a tremendous relief. For some years now, we’ve seen the MAGA-infused global right gaining a foothold amongst western democracies, largely driven by the same demagogic, nationalist, pseudo-populism that has fueled Donald Trump’s dominance on the American right.

Some countries like Hungary have served as a sort of experiment for the kind of post-democratic autocracies dreamt of by the modern right wing in which government co-opts, intimidates and de-legitimizes the political opposition to create an authoritarianism that dominates the culture and the politics without a lot of overt violence.

But the rise of the far right among the Western allies seems to be stalling out.

    • Sanctus@lemmy.world
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      I’ll take it. Really. It sucks for us. But if this is what it takes to get everyone else to kick this bullshit ass ideology and actually get on with progress over stagnation let’s fucking go.

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    You have to wonder what infects the minds of people such that they fall for this in other countries.

    I have a good idea what does it here.

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    I wouldn’t give Trump the credit for this. Yeah he is a great example of how bad it can get but the move to the left has been long on its way and picking up speednfornsome time! Trump may have boosted a snowball that was already rolling

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      Except it’s really not a move to the left, it’s just a slight slowing down of the move to the right. Fascism is currently gaining footholds in much of the western world.

      So, while the handful of left victories are great, it’s super dangerous to frame them as a reversal of fascism.

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    Hopefully, Trump and his pals cause other nations to say “The Heritage Foundation is a terrorist organization.” Just because Heritage doesn’t directly kill people, doesn’t change the fact that they will dismantle the world’s universal healthcare, food standards, and more just to make some rich person feel good.

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    He only got reelected because Democrats seemed to care about twenty other things more than the working class. If they can’t figure that out things are only going to get worse. They’ll probably get worse no matter what, the only question is who people will blame. It should be the elite class but they’ll blame poor voters on the other team and nonvoters instead.

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    in the future the trope is going to be “I’m going back in time to k— Tr–p” and everyone has to stop them because it would mean the great global awakening would never happen

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    Celebrating prematurely. The UK is about to go fascist, Germany is teetering on the brink, and Canada only just dodged a bullet for now.

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      We don’t have a general election for another 4 years in the UK.

      Reform won some council seats and are already having issues.

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        Yes, Italy, Hungary and others are already well down the fascist path. Romania just went fascist. Romania’s current election front-runner is a fascist. Austria is struggling not to be wholly under the far right’s control, depending on a coalition to hold them off. The far right has significant power in the governments of Slovakia, Netherlands, Finland, and Sweden. Portugal and Belgium are also dealing with surging far right movements.

        It’s absurd to conclude it’s over because centrism squeaked through in Canada and Australia. It’s like everyone relaxing in 2020 because the US public were sure to see sense under Biden.

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          I heard that Poland is also cheering for some MAGA guy in the next election… Troubling times ahead.

          For Romania, there might still be a chance in the run-off. However, the difference between the two candidates was quite large (20% difference; 1.8 million votes). Similarly, the other candidates seemed to have voters that would rather vote for the nazi. Most likely all hope is lost, but that 1% chance is still there.

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        Italy has always been a joke, Hungary too

        Greece was coming frighteningly close to nazism a few years back

        It’s so frustrating to see

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      The UK is a bit away from “about to go fascist”

      Nigel (Nazi-youth-song-singing, frequent RT guest apologist for Putin & emphatic volunteer for 2nd in line of any future human trumpepede) Farage is as close to actual power as he’s ever been—which is not at all.

      His party’s existence actually potentially helps more reasonable parties because he is splitting the right wing vote

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        Labour are going to have to come up with something soon though or things could go bad; I get it’s their first year and they’re doing unpopular things early so they’re not fresh for next election, but they’re really unpopular right now.

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      … Canada only just dodged a bullet for now

      By 3 points; less than a basketball goal

      And don’t forget that Italy, Poland and Hungary are already there and we’re about to invade the few countries that went left.

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    Headlines like this are for protecting the oligarchy. We all get involved until our lawmakers aren’t old rich people. We pass laws that require oversight and transparency. We protect those institutions and laws that serve democracy with our lives.

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    Great news for ‘the rest of the world’ but I’d prefer not to deal with this shit here for 4 years as well god dammit.

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    I think that - on a global scale - a fair amount of people has cause to be grateful to Trump. Whether it’s intended or not, he’s tearing down the current geopolitical statu quo and waking up people politically.

    On the flipside, I do worry that we narrowly avoided the fire in order to stay in the pan, to subvert the old saying. Over in Canada, we reelected a party that has a lot of flaws, and that their defining benefit is “isn’t the conservative right”. I’m glad we avoided a conservative sweep, but let’s not pretend the shady opposition is significantly better.