and Epic Games stance on Linux gaming is known

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    2 months ago

    Ported… into… Fortnite? I don’t understand what that means. Like portint Sonic into Mario it just, what

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      Fortnite is a massive platform now, not one game with a few modes. They have car racing, the actual fortnite game, Lego survival crafting, all kinds of stuff. It’s why the download is 100+GB and every patch is like 50gb.

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        They have Rock Band too. Yes really, it’s even worked on by Harmonix, the original creators.

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        What the actual fuck? Glad I quit playing it years ago, cause I like new features but I hate when games stray too far from the original vision (yes I’m aware that BR is a spinoff but you get my point). Why still call it Fortnite, if building forts is no longer a core aspect of the game?

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          The Battle Royale portion is called Fortnite Battle Royale. The true original Fortnite was a sandbox defense game that is now known as Fortnite: Save the World. They are both accessible from the Fortnite lobby.

          Very confusing.

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        Do they even own the publishing rights to the originals to even cut them off? It sounds to me like they’re just making game modes that mimic the gameplay.

        Edit: googled it and omg they do.

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    I’ve got a couple thousand hours in Rocket League over the years but Epic has successfully made it so insufferable that I haven’t played it in about a year. Such a shame.

    Stop killing games? What about stop fucking up games?

    We seriously need to have a long conversation about what constitutes a refund on a game. I got several thousand hours of good times out of this game but the game that I paid for is no longer available.

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      The thing is, you never paid for a “game” in the first place. You paid for a license with a whole boatload of conditions.

      The thing that needs to be fixed is not refunds, but what “buying” something digital means in the first place.

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        I didn’t say I purchased a game, I said I paid for a game. Whether that’s a “purchase” or a “license” is irrelevant to the fact that I can’t even play the game I “licensed” either.

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          Hmm, your original response pre-edit was a lot nicer.

          I didn’t say I purchased a game, I said I paid for a game.

          I also didn’t use the word purchase. You said “paid for a game”, I quoted you as saying you “paid for a game”.

          Why are you pretending I misquoted you?

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            Because the difference seemed to be what your point was. If it wasn’t, I have no idea what it was. I paid for a license for a game. Thus I paid for a game.

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              That was my point – I was building off of what you said…

              I paid for a license for a game. Thus I paid for a game.

              This is exactly the problem. This should be true, but it isn’t in most cases.

              Store’s like GOG get much closer by giving you a DRM free copy. But some would say that even then, if you aren’t allowed to modify and distribute that, you don’t really own the game either.

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      The game itself hasn’t changed at all since Epic acquisition. The only significant changes they have made are making it free and removing trading which don’t affect gameplay.

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        How about them making the variants like Snow Day unavailable unless it’s in season, or at least that’s how it looked to me when I logged back on after a year or two of not playing. I also remember when you could play Snow Day and it wasn’t competitive.

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          Yeah, Snow Day and Dropshot are seasonal for ranked play. That’s because they were not popular enough on their own so it was taking too long to find matches at high ranks, making it hard to get the season title. Has nothing to do with the Epic acquisition though, just a need to reduce fragmentation on the player pool.

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            I would venture a guess that they are not popular enough because of the changes they made. I do recall a ton of people being pissed when they switched them to not having a casual option and went to ranked only. I wasn’t sure about the epic acquisition having an effect though. Thanks.

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              They were made ranked on 2018, and Rocket League had its peak in player base around 2020-2021 after it became free. Unfortunately that was followed by a huge drop in player base in 2022, which led to the extra modes changes in 2023.

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        The changes they’ve made are adding 348953754 pop-ups every time you open a game or finish a match, and completely useless servers.

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          The changes they’ve made are adding 348953754 pop-ups every time you open a game or finish a match

          it has been like this since 2017. Now there’s maybe 1 or 2 extra pop-ups for the game pass garbage. Not that it’s a good thing, but it’s hardly a difference if it’s about 2 pop-ups or 4 pop-ups.

          completely useless servers

          Do you seriously think Epic servers are worse than what they had before? Psyonix servers were famously horrible to the point that the CEO had to issue a statement in 2017: https://www.rocketleague.com/en/news/server-performance-a-letter-from-our-ceo/

          Followed by another Psyonix statement a year later: https://www.rocketleague.com/en/news/rocket-league-server-performance-update

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            it has been like this since 2017.

            It hasn’t.

            Do you seriously think Epic servers are worse

            No I don’t. I know they are. Like the game is literally and unironically unplayable anymore. Maybe that’s an issue that’s affecting me specifically somehow but I don’t have problems with any other games.

    • the_q@lemmy.zip
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      At what point do we as consumers stop clicking “Accept” on 200 page agreements?

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        As soon as we stop needing those services. Most of the time it’s:

        1. These words make no sense to normal people
        2. It would take hours to read.
        3. Not using the product is not a choice anyway.
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      on that note, but at a bit of a tanget: apparently SuperTuxKart has football mode now

      I haven’t checked it out yet, but it apparently came out in the fairly recent 1.5 patch - and it looks pretty similar, might scratch the same itch. Dunno how active the playerbase is.

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      It’s the only reason I bought that pile of shit. Them dropping support and then selling out to Epic left a sour taste.

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    2 months ago

    Most of the Rocket League code is already in Fortnite in the form of the Rocket League racing mode…

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    Some people will still argue that hating Epic for how it handles its games is unfair.

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      People think I’m crazy to not claim free games from Epic. I don’t, and won’t even have an account on that cursed platform.

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    Am I out of the loop? What does this mean to port games to another game?

    Is fortnite like a platform now rather than just the battle royale game?

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      Fortnite is like roblox now, it has tons of user generated games inside of it (created using the fornite edition of unreal editor) and multiple epic created games

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      Yeah basically new game modes. Rocket Racing is an arcade racer, Fortnite Festival is a rock band like rhythm game, both are entirely independent from battle royale but still integrated into fortnite eco system with skins and characters going between them. This is the metaverse vision that Sweeney never stops talking about coming to fruition.

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        So we’re heading into the shitty Ready Player One dystopian timeline but it’s gonna be in Fortnite?

        KMN

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      It wasn’t even originally a battle royale game. Before that was a co-op base defense/survival game with resource collection and building elements. Kind of a limited, kid friendly 7 days to die.

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    As the guy that founded the Rocket League Discord server ive always been incredibly saddened by what happened after Epic bought Psyonix.

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    Epic/Tim Sweeney can only do one thing really well: crying to the public.

    Fuck Epic. Don’t care if they merge all of their games into one shitty game. Fall Guys was cool before Epic bought it, same thing with Rocket League. Now I don’t care about either game.

    They want to be on iOS so bad with their game and store so they can farm credit cards of children’s parents, yet they don’t care about Linux at best, or are hostile against it at worst.

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    Porting a game into another game isn’t a thing. There’s not even a term for what this sounds like other than “dumb fuck bullshit”

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    I’m confused, what does that mean ? Will a rocket league -like “mini game” be available in Fortnite, like some sort of crossover ? Will Fortnite have multiple main games like LoL has TFT and Clash Royale has Merge Tactics ? Or will Fortnite just become a game launcher ??

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      It means Epic wants more users to play Fortnite, whatever Fortnite is. They could rename Unreal Engine into Fortnite at some point probably.