Haven’t seen the documentary but would be great to have an annotated list of accounts of gay animals from throughout history to point people towards so they can’t say its chemicals in the water or microplastics turning animals gay in the current era.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
Various forms of this are found in every major geographic region and every major animal group.
Like, all of them. But for specific examples:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
It doesn’t mention any historical examples from before 1990 due to cultural prejudice but I’d be shocked if the Greeks and Romans didn’t write on the subject, being such avid observers of the natural world. Sounds like a fun research project for a historian, I’m sure it’s out there.
Tbf I wouldn’t mind them thinking microplastics turned animals gay, maybe they’d be inclined to do something about it
Alex Jones’ well known statement that “they’re putting chemicals in the water that turn the fricking frogs gay” isn’t enough for them to support even the most basic environmental regulation.
A nice thought that there are inroads on the environment among the paranoid set of conservatives, maybe worth exploring. I recall studies showing some kinds of chemical effluent having gender based effects on fish at least, which might be the origin of Alex’s bizarre theory.
I think conservatives freak out any time they learn basically anything.
A true servative learns everything they will need to know for the duration of their life by the age of 13.
They die basically the same kinds of people they were born as.
Or alternatively, pretend it didn’t happen
Bold of you to assume they learn. They just knee-jerk get angry at whatever fox “news” tells them they should be angry about.
Some of them are capable of learning - they’re called 'ex conservatives '.
The rarest of unicorns
It’s pretty common where I live, especially for people who grow up in conservative families. You start out assuming the trusted adults in your life are right about everything (or at least I did), but once you’re exposed to the world outside your bubble, you gradually (or not) change your mind on a lot of things.
I get that that’s different from, say, an adult with fully formed beliefs one day changing their mind, and that probably is pretty rare. Still, out of all the badass lefties I know, most of them did have at least a few years of cringy hardcore conservatism. 🤷
And by conservatives you mean two random twitter accounts that, at least in the article screens, do not mention their political view at all, one random youtube commenter with no mention of political views, and one conservative sports website which is kind of a weird crossover.
Let’s keep it real here, that article is trying suuuuper hard to be edgy with nothing much to cling to. Conservatives stopped talking about gay people in the 90’s.
“The Dangerous Consequences of Florida’s “Don’t Say Gay” Bill on LGBTQ+ Youth in Florida” - Yup, not a word since the 90s. https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/online/volume-xxiii-online/the-dangerous-consequences-of-floridas-dont-say-gay-bill-on-lgbtq-youth-in-florida/
The fuck are you smoking? Thomas talked about overturning Obergefell in his Roe ruling. Fuck off.
Sorry dude. I read the article and see the only cites of conservatives losing it are a couple social media comments from random noname people with no clear political view.
I don’t follow foreign politics so I have no clue what you’re trying to say, but in my country the older thinkers give zero fucks about people being gay.
Either way, do you think this article sincerely found conservatives freaking out about gay animals because I do not see that in this article. It does the world no favours manifesting polarization without substance.
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Thomas is a Supreme Court justice and his legal ruling in a recent case advocated for banning gay marriage. Perhaps the situation is different elsewhere but in the US there is still a lot of prejudice against queer people among conservatives.
That nuts, thanks for the context.
According to Wikipedia the overwhelming majority of Americans support gay marriage. It actually references the 90’s as the turning point which seems to support my original comment.
Yeah I think it is more of a loud minority but it is a strongly held belief for a not insignificant portion of the population, and they hold a lot of political power.
What the overwhelming majority of Americans believe doesn’t matter, because the US is not a direct democracy; it is a representative republic. The representatives are elected, and are massively corrupt. The corruption comes in many different forms, like gerrymandering, first past the post voting leading to a two party system, private monetary donations to political campaigns leading to representatives doing their donors’ bidding, revolving door politics, the owner class having ownership over the means of production leading to massive consolidation of wealth which then ties back into private money in politics and the revolving door, etc.
When looking at polling data, the American people are pretty solidly social democrats, but US policy does not reflect that at all; instead, it reflects the will of the corporations and wealthy donors, except for very rare situations where there is a form of direct democracy, like direct ballot initiatives, for example. When looking at bills that are signed into law outside of direct ballot initiatives, 99.99% of the time, it reflects the interests of the wealthy or fascists (since the wealthy prefers fascism over any semblence of socialism, since it keeps them in power).
They literally send gay children to abusive camps to “pray the gay away”. You cannot say they don’t give a shit about gay people, they’re just harder to attack so they’re focusing on trans people now.
You: I don’t understand American politics around queer people but I’m gonna tell you that you have nothing to worry about. Fucking idiot.
The majority of Americans arent conservative, so what the majority believe doesnt reflect what a minority of the population believe. As for the population of conservatives its about thirty percent, they just have undue influence due to fuckery and outdated governmental systems.
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Yeah, if only you would. But you won’t.
It’s simpler just to block people like you.
I don’t follow foreign politics so I have no clue
Should have stopped there.
You had me until the last sentence.
You may now be my favorite parody account on Lemmy.
I guess prepare to be let down?
I don’t think you could let me down if you tried, friend.
Peruse my comments. Huge let down. But thanks for your support.
I’m not talking specifically about this issue or what was said in this article.
What issue or what article?
It was a general statement. Not sure why that’s difficult to discern.
“They’re turning the freaking frogs gay!”
I’m deeply sad that Alex jones got his hands on that one. There’s a potentially huge effect that birth control has on fish reproduction, but I suspect people dismiss it because Jones said libs were turning frogs gay
Kind of amazing I didn’t think of that when I read this
I couldn’t help but to think it, he lives rent free in my head.
for a positive counterbalance, the “swans can be gay” meme
Honestly, I’m a wonk, listening to an episode of KF right now, and that quote is so foreign to me because there’s so many other clips I’ve heard more often. Does that make me a hipster if “freaking frogs gay” is too mainstream?
Does that make me a hipster if “freaking frogs gay” is too mainstream?
Yes, but the good kind. The knowledgeable kind.
They’re just learning it now? Lol, talk about being late to the party. That research has been around for decades.
Wait until they Google “bilateral gynandromorphism”.
Bold of you to assume that they can spell either to a close enough approximation that the Google suggestion is correct…
Learning and incorporating new information aren’t early their strong suits.
I guess they weren’t fans of Parks and Rec, they covered penguins years age. ☺
Being a conservative requires refusing to learn anything
In high school, the conservative kids refused to accept homosexuality occurred in Greek culture. Then when they finally did accept it, said it was why God destroyed their civilization?
“Destroyed” by the famously straight Romans?
By that claim… Roman Empire go bye bye?
How do you think the Romans caught all that gayness?
Greek blood
Being Greco-Roman means never having to apologize for getting off.
You conserve your brain by not learning about stuff and things.
5D Go Fish right there.
Conservatives are freaking out because they learned that some animals are gay
Are we seriously doomed to have this stupid ass homophobia shoved down our throats by conservative bigots every 5-10 years because they keep getting mad about the same thing all over again? I’ve been listening to this shit for over 20 years now.
Just know that these asshats take extreme pride in their hate. They will subject people to it until the day they die. Christianity is an eternal well of hate and ignorance. And they want to make sure no one is ever happy, the miserable fucks!
I think we’re doomed to have it shoved down our throats way more frequently than that with their recent freak outs.
Also, he mentions 20 years, I have seen it going on much longer than 20 years, sadly. If they seize power via a Ronald McDonald presidency, they will make things far, far worse. I remember things being very hostile toward gays (trans, etc., didn’t really get a mention other than for comedy) at the height of the fear over AIDS. I think the boot lifted a bit from their neck during the 70s, a whole lot of people seemed to view the 80s as their comeuppance for daring to be who they are…
And anyone that votes for Republicans, and yet is not a fully white, xtian, far-right cishet male is absolutely kidding themselves. They’ll have you up against the wall eventually no matter how much Ronald McDonald regalia you might have purchased.
Given their history, I’m thinking yes. And they have more plans than just poutrages on their alternative reality cinematic universe, they want to force their worldview of xtian Sharia Law on everyone.
There’s literally worms in their brains.
“It’s unclear if there is an official Hierarchy of Victimhood for animals,” Outkick bleats. “There is for humans. Transgender persons sit atop. Straight white Christian men sit at the bottom, almost buried beneath the pyramid.”
Pfffft. What a hypocrite. Whining about trans people’s immense victimhood, while using the exact same metaphor to imply that, in fact, HE is the most victimized of all by not even being allowed to be the victim. By being “buried beneath the pyramid” of victimhood. Bahahahaha. The cognitive dissonance is incredible.
And buddy… That “Christian” part is apparently doing a lot of heavy lifting on your victim complex, my guy. Plenty of us straight white men get by without being under constant attack. If everyone around you seems like an asshole, maybe you’re the asshole. And maybe if you acted a little more Christ-like, you’d give people less reason to attack you and you’d make more friends with different kinds of people.
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
-Mahatma Gandhi
Straight white Christian men sit at the bottom, almost buried beneath the pyramid
Like a Pharaoh? Buried with concubines and unimaginable riches and feasts in an elaborate sarcophagus? Under a monument built on the backs of thousands of slaves and their suffering and death? Yeah, okay, that tracks.
Except that the pyramid builders weren’t slaves
The problem in his view, as best I can tell, is that there is a natural hierarchy, that he belongs on top of telling everyone else what to do, and any upset of this natural hierarchy is oppressing him. He may not have thought this out in so many words, but it’s a hypothesis that seems to make accurate predictions about what people in his reference class will do and say.
Oh, definitely. Conservatives are all about social hierarchies and how it’s the only ‘natural’ form of society. Anyone trying to ‘rise above their place’ or help someone do so is an enemy to be destroyed, lest they cause the collapse of society as we know it.
And neveryoumind if society as we know it is a mighty pile of suck for people not at the top. Shoulda been born rich white christian cishet males.
honestly from the way he talks I can’t tell if hes a top or a bottom and which he actually prefers.
billionaires lives are made near unliveable by the evil tax system that exploits all their hard work to benefit the lazy
/s
Again?
I was told that all these things happen because Eve ate the forbidden fruit and doomed the world to fall into sin. I guess that is why they hate women so much.
Also, I am glad to hear about another interesting documentary. I’m going to add this to my watch list.
What’ll really freak them out is learning that people are animals too…
IF PEOPLE EVELEVEVOD FROM MONKEYS WHYARE THEREA STILL MONKEYS!?!?!
CHECKMEAT ATHEASTS
Imagine having a world view based on such fragile bullshit that two animals fucking can shatter it…
Just see how many of them react to teaching the fundamentals of biology (evolution).
Yeah conservatives are brain damaged.
We will soon have churches for animals that also can operate without taxes
