• Asafum@feddit.nl
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      They won’t. The “conspiratorial left” had their version of this with Abby Martin. She was on RT I believe.

      • blackbelt352@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 year ago

        Who? Like I looked her up… but I’ve never heard of her. She’s certainly not nearly as high profile as Tucker Carlson. Maybe a more apt comparison would be if someone like Rachel Maddow left MSNBC and went to Russia for RT.

        • Asafum@feddit.nl
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          1 year ago

          Definitely a fringe audience, I was just commenting on the fact that audiences won’t change their minds when their “favorite” talking head moves to a “concerning” platform.

          • blackbelt352@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            1 year ago

            Yeah but the entire point this is newsworthy is that Carlson is a huge figurehead for conservatives with a huge audience going working for Russian state media.

            This woman is a relative nobody, even in lefty spheres. Her moving to RT isn’t going to make the same political waves as the former FOX News darling that is Tucker Carlson

            • Asafum@feddit.nl
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              1 year ago

              That is the point of the article, but not the point the person I replied to was making. They just said they hope their viewers notice this and I was just using an anecdote to say they probably won’t care.

              • blackbelt352@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                edit-2
                1 year ago

                I understand who you were replying to but you gave an example of some random vaguely left leaning conspiracy theorist with very little following in general and compared her basically unknown presence to the absolute massive media presence that is Tucker Carlson, where nearly every person in this country has probably heard about him. He’s not on the fringe, he is the mainstream.

                Pointing out she’s a leftist example of what Carlson is currently doing is just a straight up false equivalence. She doesn’t have the media following Carlson does, she doesn’t have the political sway Carlson does, she didn’t have literally millions of people watch her show every day.

                Dont bury the lede, say exactly what you mean. What was the point you’re trying to make? Some leftist nobody joining RT is the same thing as the biggest media face of right wing propaganda? There’s only 2 reads for that line of logic, either left-wing conspiracy theoriests have just as much political sway as the oil baron funded propaganda machine? Or Tucky McNear Swanson-heiress Carlson, face of conservative media, joining Russian state media just isn’t that big of a deal?

                • Asafum@feddit.nl
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  1 year ago

                  I think you’re reading too much into what I said.

                  I literally meant to say one thing: people who want to follow someone won’t care where they go. They won’t process that information as something to be concerned about. That’s literally it. I wasn’t saying anything about the importance of the individual.

                  If it helps at all, I’m fairly far left and I’m not trying to defend anything. There’s no agenda here. I used her as an example because I was once one of those “conspiratorial leftists.” Everything was about the American Empire, and her going to RT if anything was an assurance that what she said wouldn’t be “altered” by US political pressure. That’s what I believe other people will think of Carlson as well.

    • Gerudo@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      They won’t. They fully believe that Russia is a better run country than the US. They truly believe that Russia is more free and has more rights than the US. Dictatorship is what they want.

    • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      His fans think Putin’s Russia is the way to be. “You get your coin back when you return the shopping cart!”

  • theprogressivist @lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 year ago

    How much more proof do people need that shows this fuck along with Fox News and the Republican Party that they’re Russian informants, propagandists, useful idiots or all the above? The critical thinking in this country is beyond abysmal.

    • barsquid@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      People who can stand watching Tucker at all already have brain worms. What is that racist screed he did about diversity, didn’t it essentially boil down to, “what if I go to my hometown and hear Spanish? What if an ESL barber gives me a bad haircut?” Only a dimwit who has already chosen racism over thinking about anything would listen to that without recoiling in revulsion.

  • twinnie@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 year ago

    he will interview figures and politicians who have “alternative views to the mainstream.”

    Try presenting the view that Russia invaded Ukraine. See how well that goes.

  • retrospectology@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 year ago

    What a wild time to be around in. Imagine trying to explain to a Reagan republican in the 80s that by the 2020s they’d be following a guy who literally does nothing to hide the fact that he’s a Rusduan asset for an ex-KGB strong man.

    The right really has totally collapsed the notion of fact based reality.

      • MagicShel@programming.dev
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 year ago

        He might be happy about defeating communism, but he wouldn’t be happy about getting cozy with Russia.

        My grandfather was happy to win WW2, but he never bought a German or Japanese car, you know? Also, he didn’t use the words “German” or “Japanese”, but that’s another story…

          • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            1 year ago

            And nowadays if it’s a CUV or SUV it’s probably as much made in America as any of the American brands.

            I grew up in Detroit and my parents owned some of the only VWs (old Bugs and a Bus). They got some shit for it in the 70s-80s, but nothing like my aunt got when her dad (an engineer for Chrysler and lifelong devotee) bought her a ‘59 beetle in ‘59. The jocks at her school rolled it on its roof.

    • TTH4P@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      I’m trying to think of what my father is saying to himself. I would guess he’s just laughing at Tuck for being “a joke” without allowing any introspection whatsoever. :)

  • OhmsLawn@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 year ago

    The Onion has gone so hard recently, and real stories have gotten so bizarre.

    I’m really getting confused.

  • just_another_person@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 year ago

    Of course he did, he’s like a stereotype “Red” agent out of the Cold War. He will be living and thriving there once Dems take everything back. Good riddance.

    • Asafum@feddit.nl
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      I wish I had your optimism.

      All I see in our future is Mango Mussolini and the heritage foundation/federalist society running rampant completing their fascist theocracy…

      But hey, at least we taught Democrats a lesson…

      • MagicShel@programming.dev
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 year ago

        It’s a long time to the election, and the more he gets to speak the more 30% of the country loves him and 60% hates him. Fight for it, but have faith. Pro-Trump rhetoric anecdotally seems much, much lower than in 2020. Fewer bumper stickers and yard signs. But I live in Michigan where the party is broke and shattered.

        I think Dobbs actually broke the backs of centrist conservatives. Trump is running rightward to gain ever more crackpot voters for his base and I think there is a huge disillusioned middle.

  • stoy@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 year ago

    As a Swede I read news about the American prez ellection while on the bus home from work, and I just get madder and madder, then I suddenly realize that I am not a US citizen and don’t even live in the US, and I relax…

    …then I remember that we are part of NATO now…

      • KevonLooney@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 year ago

        That won’t relax them. Other NATO countries don’t want to pay for defence. They want the US to organize it and do most of the defending so they can pay for social services.

    • HubertManne@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      I remember ribbing an english friend about brexit just before trump got elected. then I was all like, yeah but he will be gone in a few years. Now I am here with a decade later being just a few years away and looking down the barrel of him having taken one of the two parties that win elections over here.