• The_Tired_Horizon@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I suppose I’m a “content creator”. I write music.

    I WISH all my recording gear was free. Fucking hell. The amount of money I’ve wasted in the last 30 years… sheesh.

  • arglebargle@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I never did get a music subscription of any kind. Guess I am glad about that now. I just host my own server. Spotify never had a quarter of what I want to listen to anyways so I guess there is that.

    Listening to Legion of Mary 12-10-1974 right now.

  • Got_Bent@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The only reason I keep Spotify anymore is that I’ve got a family plan with something like six accounts. I gave those to random acquaintances back in the Facebook days - people who are really into music.

    If I cancel Spotify, there are five people out there who are suddenly and without warning going to find themselves without music.

    I really don’t even remember who they are, but I feel like continuing the subscription is my community service

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      1 year ago

      Pretty sure you can see their email address. This should give you the opportunity to message them stating you’ll be canceling the subscription. They’ll still be able to subscribe on their own.

  • lepinkainen@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Apple Music pays multiple times more to artists than Spotify.

    Tidal pays multiple times more than Apple.

    You can influence things with your wallet.

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      Tidal pays multiple times more than Apple.

      On paper. But in practice…

      On February 27, 2016, Yesh Music, LLC and John Emanuele from the band The American Dollar launched a $5 million class-action lawsuit that claimed Tidal had to compensate the band for any of the royalty payments accrued from the streaming of the band’s 116 copyrighted songs. The suit also accused Tidal of using faulty numbers to payout artists while also having undercut these same individuals by 35%. A response from Tidal stated that they were indeed fully up to date on all royalties for the group and had removed said intellectual property from their servers.

      Hollywood accounting and pirate profiteering undercut what artists would normally be paid.

      You can influence things with your wallet.

      You can influence how you feel about your consumer habits, but capitalists are still going to capitalize.

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        I used TuneMyMusic when I moved from Apple to Tidal.

        Now this isn’t without its own stupid system.

        So to transfer all your music and not just a limited amount you have to sign up to pay for it. Now I’m fine paying a one off fee for this service as it was seamless, what in against it the only options being an annual fee or a recurring payment.

        It cost me like £3, maybe less in being lazy. But I had to sign up, do the transfer then immediately cancel. I understand some people might be bougie and use multiple services, but not having a one time fee irked me.

        If you go this route, as it is easy as tidal will send you there, please do what I did and send them a complaint afterwards about the ludicrous system and that they should add a one time fee to make it even easier. Heck I would have paid £5 for this as I have so many playlists and liked albums and songs etc.

        I mentioned it on here previously and someone alluded to free services but I can’t confirm.

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        There were apps out there to help with this when I switched from Spotify to Tidal. I can’t remember the name anymore though. It just sucks up all your saved songs and playlists, matches them in the other service then adds them. Almost everything I had moved over without a problem. I do miss the social aspect of Spotify, being able to share links with friends. No one I know has tidal except the people on my family plan. There are services that will turn your song link into a linktree like page with links for Spotify, tidal, YouTube music, deezer, etc., but that’s clunky.

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      1 year ago

      If you can, and they have it on there, buy your favorite albums on Bandcamp, then they are yours forever

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    1 year ago

    So what is their excuses for older musicians that paid for expensive studio time before the day of home studios? Cause they still pay them like shit too

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    1 year ago

    Another thing I don’t use, and its users with problems I don’t have.

    There are times when it’s good to be asocial.

  • Kevnyon@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    For anyone out there, I recommend giving Tidal a shot and for podcasts, I recommend a FOSS app called AntennaPod. This is the combo I use myself, I’ve been using Tidal for a bit over two years now and just recently switched to AntennaPod.

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      1 year ago

      AntennaPod is great, I used it for years. I eventually switched to self hosting AudioBookShelf which does audiobooks, ebooks, and podcasts. One main reason was because podcasts more and more yank the old episodes and put them behind a patreon. AudioBookShelf downloads the episodes to your server so you always have them. About 5 months after starting using it another one of my podcasts pulled that stunt and I was super happy to have all of the old episodes still.

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        I’ll have to keep that in mind, thanks for that. I honestly had no considered some BS like that happening.

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    1 year ago

    Another clueless CEO who doesn’t know what makes his company’s very existence possible.

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    1 year ago

    told them to go fuck themselves and canceled my subscription yesterday. they really didn’t stop to consider just how many options people have for music

    • The_Tired_Horizon@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      I was telling people to try music on spotify and youtube, and then buy it on bandcamp etc. Download a copy. There sometimes comes a time when labels crumble, or streaming sites go bankrupt.

  • ForgottenFlux@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 year ago

    Summary:

    • Spotify has announced another price hike for its subscription plans in the United States.
    • This price increase comes shortly after Spotify CEO Daniel Ek sparked outrage among music fans and creators by claiming that the “cost of creating content is close to zero.”
    • Many musicians and music fans condemned Ek’s comments, arguing that music is not just “content” and that it is costly and time-consuming to create.
    • Despite the backlash, Spotify is increasing its standard Premium plan by $1 to $11.99, the Duo plan by $2 to $16.99, and the Family plan by $3 to $19.99 per month.
    • Spotify claims the price hikes are necessary to invest in and innovate its product features, but this reasoning is questioned given Ek’s “content” cost comments.
    • Spotify is less vulnerable to customer churn compared to TV/movie streaming services, as users are less likely to switch music streaming providers due to the hassle of rebuilding playlists and losing personalized recommendations.
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      IIRC this means the family plan costs more than 3 individual plans did like 3 years ago. If not more than it saves you like $.50 in comparison. I would try and look it up but Google search has also turned to shit so I don’t feel like dealing with it.

      The Internet just isn’t fun anymore.

  • can@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    So now that Tidal has moved its Hi-Fi tier price down to match Apple’s wtf is Spotify doing? Charging more than the competition, paying artists less, and not even offering lossless?

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      1 year ago

      And as long as people keep subscribing to them, they’ll March right along collecting that sweet money.

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      Spotify is less vulnerable to customer churn compared to TV/movie streaming services, as users are less likely to switch music streaming providers due to the hassle of rebuilding playlists and losing personalized recommendations.

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          yes but often there are some mixups… which is a PITA for those of us with ~10K+ songs

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            I’m an album man so while I have beyond that many tracks it’s more seemless for me.

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          Would you happen to have one to recommend to switch from Spotify to apple music? I’m thinking about moving but my playlists are keeping me from leaving.

          • Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            I used TuneMyMusic when I switched to Amazon Music a few months ago. It worked really well. It costs $4 or $5 to subscribe for a month but it’s a huge time saver.

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            I moved all my music using the SongShift app on iOS which was super convenient. At least when I bought it, it was a 1 time cost of like $5, not sure about now. But it matches songs and lets you see which ones don’t line up and then copies the playlist over exactly the same.

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      Spotify has over 200mill paying subscribers and over 600mill total I believe. They an afford the peel off unfortunately.

      From what I can tell Tidal won’t even publish their subscribers so it must be pretty small.