• hlmeless@lemy.lol
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    11 months ago

    Should they allow unmitigated and unlimited immigration then? What about all of the legal immigrants that came into the country? Do they now have to take a back seat to the illegal immigrants too?

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        11 months ago

        So you think that people should freely enter other countries and live there, with or without paying taxes?

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          11 months ago

          Nobody said anything about taxes.

          We should make it easier for immigrants to pay tax regardless of status, otherwise we lose out on the tax revenue and create black markets and crime.

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                11 months ago

                And that’s enough for you? Corporations abuse illegal immigrants, it stresses the housing supply as well as other government funded services, but because, according to you they pay taxes, so that’s okay?

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                  11 months ago

                  According to you they dont pay taxes? Would be good to have a source for that claim, because taxes are paid directly or indirectly in most things done in your daily life ie, having a car, having a house, buying foods or services. So, if your problem is that despite paying taxes they are stressing too much the house supply and government funded services you will be in favour of kicking out of the country people that is legal but have too many kids? I dont think many white christian families are going to like that.

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                    11 months ago

                    *income tax, they would not be paying income tax in all cases. I am just surprised that you, and everyone in this conversation wants unlimited Immigration.

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                  11 months ago

                  Haha,okay hon. You asked a simple question, I answered. Now you’re reading other shit into it? Don’t be an idiot.

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              11 months ago

              I just cant help but laugh at your questions, does your country have vat or not? Do people not pay vat in products and services? for having a car? for having a house? from being paid a salary? If your argument is that as they are illegal they have are being paid in b im sure most of them will be happy to be legalized and pay all the taxes ;)

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                11 months ago

                NO, my argument doesn’t only have to do with taxes. But I’m glad you had a laugh.

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                  11 months ago

                  Do you think illegal immigrants pay taxes?

                  But you were implying illegal immigrants didnt pay taxes, do you understand what you write before sending your messages or are you just too much into a racist outrage to care.

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                    11 months ago

                    I said they may or may not, meaning some of them don’t.

                    Edit: maybe try reading

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          11 months ago

          When did I say anything about taxes? Not even going to comment on it bcz a number of other people have already made you look dumb.

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            11 months ago

            You and others here said you want to promote illegal immigration, so ya, you’re looking super smart.

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          11 months ago

          It’s the boogeyman. It’s like seeing the temperature rise and blaming the sun or w/e. Putting the blame on the wrong thing. Like sure there should be immigration restrictions of some kind but putting the blame on immigrants is stupid and the people who eat it up the morons.

          The businesses are usually right leaning and support this view, yet the have no problem hiring illegal immigrants. They love to hire people at lowest wage.

          Here is an image that depicts it.

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          Deportations is also the wrong solution. People like it, but that’s stupid. People will just come back to the same employer or find someone else. It’s a side effect of capitalism.

          You want to fix it, tax the business that hire illegal immigrants. Hell pay these illegal immigrants for ranting out their employeer. I guarantee you will have less illegal immigrants.

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            11 months ago

            Another comment that has literally nothing to do with what I said. Of course corporations want illegal immigrants. It’s much easier for them to exploit them. I said we need a much better legal immigration system and illegal immigrants should be removed from the country

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      First, what’s the economic cost here? Immigration is not a net negative overall. Why spend trillions of dollars burning money to police one of the worlds largest borders other than to blow all of society’s resources on an impossibly stupid and unproductive task?

      The irrational desire to punish children for misdemeanor crimes of parents should be seen as what it is: a mental disorder.

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        11 months ago

        Just like everyone else here, you’re completely missing the point. No, it is not fair to punish the children. But it’s not the responsibility of the country to allow illegal immigration to take precedence over laws