The ones who are most vulnerable to this change are the ones who especially should’ve left this platform already. I’m sorry, but they’re not being forced to use it, and everyone should leave it. I don’t have much sympathy or care about wanting to make an alt-right social media platform safer, I want it to crash and burn.
“BuT eVeRyOnE iS oN tWitTeR”
And will continue to be so long as everyone keeps showing Elon there is NOTHING he can do, say, or allow that will get people to leave.
A lot of them are in-denial. I’ve seen them argue that Twitter isn’t a Nazi platform and is used by normal people. Serves them right I guess, they were told it was a problem and they didn’t want to listen.
The best way to cure network effect is with pain and suffering, and eventual forced deprivation (when the service shuts down).
Nice username thats gonna be worth big money some day
Thx I’ll sell you it as an nft
Pretty sure he’s doing this simply because he doesn’t like how many people have blocked him personally
Taylor Swift blocked him and he can’t have that
He’s grumpy that she won’t see any additional jokes he makes about impregnating her
I thought they were already doing this last year.
Journalist James Ball noted that this is not the first time that Musk has made similar threats to reimagine the block function, suggesting it may be a false alarm.
But hey, at least we got to sell more ad space by printing another article about it…
It’s a win for humanity if it causes more people to leave and stop thinking it’s a public forum.
It IS a public forum though. The whole point of it, even dating back to it’s inception, was very very public conversation. It was in stark contrast to facebook, which claimed to be privacy driven. As opposed to the mostly public myspace, and the completely public twitter.
Since Musk took it, it’s more like an arena where the loudest and dumbest have the microphones. It is neither a haven for free speech nor a forum where legitimate discourse takes place. It has become the trash pit of the internet.
That’s not what was said though. I was saying that it was a PUBLIC forum. I’m not stating WHAT is being said. Merely that it’s being said in a public way.
I don’t think I would agree that just because something is public that it’s a public forum. I feel like the public has to own it as well. I looked it up and maybe it’s because I predate social media by rather a lot, but I think of it in the classical sense:
Public forums are typically categorized into three types:
- Traditional Public Forums: Long-established spaces like parks or sidewalks, where people have historically exercised their rights to free speech and assembly.
- Designated Public Forums: Areas that the government intentionally opens up for public expression, such as town halls or school meeting rooms.
- Limited Public Forums: Spaces opened for specific types of discussions or activities but with certain restrictions on the subject matter or participants.
The important factor being public ownership of the forum. I will concede that it has colloquially come to include public social media, but I think it’s important to distinguish that it’s not really the same thing at all as has been discussed through most of our history.
Food for thought. I just think calling them public forums attaches too much importance to a profit seeking endeavor.
Exactly. You were much more articulate than I, with my comparison, but it was effectively the point I was trying to make — it’s not a public forum at all and it’s now overrun by a cesspool of nonsensical garbage.
At this point if you’re still on Shitter you kinda deserve whatever you get
I agree that X is enemy territory now, but in a world where billionaires can buy up all the major means of communication, it doesn’t feel like enough to just close up our accounts and move on. They can follow us wherever our accounts go and buy platforms out from under us. Lemmy and Mastodon are slightly better as open decentralized platforms, but they still could be attacked by Musk if he had the initiative to.
I’m saying it now: Get an amateur radio license and pay ARRL dues. We’re going to need to protect that bandwidth.
I thought Twitter was once forced but a court to enable blocking for all users against all users. Isn’t this why we are able to block advertisers?
i seem to remember something similar. and blocking advertisers seems like it should be common law but i guess chrome killing adblockers takes predesence.
Remember to contact your political representative and express your concerns on any public organization account having an account on twitter. Also contact any journali of a media you use to read/watch and express the same concern.
Once politics and journalists get out of twitter is game over.
Where’s the “CALL ME THE MEME LORD” meme
I’m pretty sure both the App Store and the Google Play Store both require social media apps to have a block feature. Will be interesting to see what happens if he goes through with this.
Absolutely nothing. Rules on those stores are only for the little guys
He backed down when Brazil blocked him. If Apple and Google decided to threaten to delist Twitter, he’ll back down.
But I need that to block the 15 bots that follow me each day
I swear sometime he really seems like he is personally trying to kill twitter/x/xitter whatever it’s called.
Everthing he does is a win for them.
Reminder: if you still have an account with that fucko’s service-
You support everthing he does.
I’m keeping it just long enough to harass his ass. I’ll be all over him like Joe Biden on an ice cream cone, or Elon Musk on Trumps dick.
I promise you: you’re not harassing him. You ARE however, supporting him by having an account.
Reminder: if you have american citizenship, all support everything those fucko’s do
People aren’t born on Twitter.
I’ve kept my account because it’s a sought after username. Deleting it would allow some grifter to take it over. It also predates both Elmo’s and the original Twitter accounts.
I’ve not posted anything under it since the third party apps were blocked.
Reminder: if you purchase gas from BP, you support anything they’ve ever done.
Reminder: if you purchase a smart phone, you support child labor.
I don’t believe I’m entertaining this ridiculous comparison, but….
We NEED gasoline. We NEED telecommunications. You don’t NEED to tweet dumb shit about your breakfast or keep up with sports scores.
You’re here to defend X, therefore you’re defending Elon. That’s how it works. Don’t like it, maybe don’t speak up for him next time.
You may need gasoline, but you don’t need BP’s gasoline. By choosing to buy BP’s gasoline, you support everything BP has ever done. Don’t want to support them, buy different gasoline.
FWIW, I’m not sure if I have a Xitter account or not. I did at one point. Definitely don’t remember a password, and I probably used a former email account that I can no longer access either, so no way of recovering it if it still exists. I have a severe lack of fucks to give about it.
But, I am pro-pedantry, and your argument kinda sucked.
So you popped in to say that you essentially have nothing to say by supporting a shit tier false equivalence argument. Good for you!
“Defend” lol. I don’t give a shit about Twitter. My level of care is the same level of care I have for you: the sum of zero.
You live in a world of absolutes. It will be the end of you.
Also, fuck outta here with your needing a smart phone. You don’t need it. It just makes your life more convenient.
You support child labor. Don’t like it? Maybe don’t speak up next time.
Apologies for upsetting you. It wasn’t my intention, but I will not take back my opinion that if you have a X account, you are supporting Elon.
Owning a cellular phone is in no way supporting child labor. And even if we were to suspend reality enough to agree that it is, then YOU not only are admitting that you support Elon, but you ALSO support child labor.
Is that true? Do you support child labor and Elon?
Some things are absolute, bud. But not all things are.
Learn this and do better.
Who are you people? Upsetting me? How the hell did you reach that conclusion?
Be honest with me. How hard is your dick when you’re responding? You have an extremely smug way about you. Which is typical of the far left that comprise the majority membership of Lemmy.
“learn this and do better” for fuck sakes.
Though I’m glad you and I agree that you do indeed support child labor. It’s nice to have common ground.
I’m so sorry that People hurt you that much on Lemmy. Maybe this place is a bit too “rough” for you but you need to learn that the Internet is no safe space for you. If you feel so triggered maybe you should take longer breaks between using it and see how much you can actually stomach it at once. It’s totally okay. No one will judge you, some people can deal better with the “stress” the Internet brings us and some people need to take breaks.
If you ever need more help: https://mentalhealthhotline.org/anxiety-hotline/
Take care of yourself and learn what your Body is teaching you!
You seem pretty obviously upset.
Ah, yes, I’m having a conversation with someone with an opposing viewpoint, so clearly I’m upset. Ya caught me.
Is this some odd debate tactic people use here? Tell people they’re upset in the hope it gets them upset? Is emotional and mental stability that unstable on Lemmy? Never thought I’d pine for the reddit days.
I guess reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit.
k.
do you have a blue checkmark
you think people don’t need smartphones? do you not have a job?
When I comment that Twitter is trash and I’d never use it, the response I often get is ‘it’s actually pretty good after you block all the trolls and bots and corporate accounts and politicians and blue checks’… 🙄
Before the musk acquisition I had something like 8,000 people blocked… mostly the inane shit like “Patriot Christina dog mom” or incredible soichebags like “dc_draino”.
other than userbase, what does twitter have that mastodon does not have? genuinely curious
Ability to actually find interesting content. I want an algo, but at this point I want more of what Bluesky does but for Mastodon.
Shit tons of racists.
Better media and infrastructure support, name recognition, corporate privacy issues instead of no privacy whatsoever, ads, pay-to-win social ‘cred’ (blue check-mark), an insane leader, and an algorithm controlling your content.
Better media and infrastructure support
the only positive you’ve stated lol. man, do I wish the fediverse would take off
Name recognition and privacy are also positives though.
Although they are bad long term. Any platform reaching critical mass is invaded by the corporations, fanatics and propaganda campaigns.
I’ve come to the conclusion that it never will. Be happy with what it is. It’ll slowly grow for a few years, and slowly die at the same time.
What eventually will happen is the fediverse will be so niche that less than 1000 people will use it.
Which is sad because IF it had the userbase, it would last basically forever. Because it can scale, and adapt to a changing world. It can scale itself indefinately as long as there is interest. It has the basic foundation for being able to uproot corporate ownership elsewhere.
But the reason it never will is the same reason Linux never will be even in the same conversation as the dominant operating systems. It’s because it’s formed niche concepts which confuse the average user. I’ve been here 5 months, with more posts than most I come into contact with. Yet I still feel like I must not be getting something. It feels off.
It’s more than just decentralized. It’s fragmented. The people who write the code seem to think that the average person gives two shits about decentralized. They don’t. At all. If anything it’s a hinderence to them, because it makes things harder to understand.
And THATS the problem. If you call the average person “normies”, then you’re sending a clear line between them and you. As if they don’t belong.
The best way to attract “normies” is to make things easy. Painfully easy. Preschool levels of easy.
My niece has been using an iPad since she was like 2 years old. My sister, who bought the iPad has ZERO clue how to use it.
These are the people who live on this planet.
With both Linux and the fediverse, the same mentality from the creators seems to be in use. “If I had to deal with it being hard, so do you”. And that’s a deal breaker for the vast majority.
There needs to be a set of standards that ALL fediverse services and instances need to adhere to. It can still be defederated, but it should FEEL unified. That means one set of usernames. It means if you don’t like the instance you’re on, you can transfer your account. All your settings, all your post history, all your upvotes would come with you. When you’re signing up, you get the choice between the default behavior of random home instance. Which would place you on any random instance which accepts public resignation. OR you can choose any instance that will have you.
This would please the idea of no single instance growing too big. While also keeping individual public instances from clumping same minded people, which then introduces different instances all having different personalities. Ideally you want fediverse nuetrality. Just people, all people, on all machines.
But that’s why the fediverse won’t grow. SOMEONE will come along and say “Well it won’t work because…”
To which I say MAKE it work. Otherwise the fediverse won’t be attractive to average people. Google looked at linux and said “We’ll MAKE it work.” And today Android is the most widely used cell phone OS in the world. While traditional linux has less than 5% adoption rate.
Android is something you don’t need to explain. It doesn’t work like windows. So you can’t blame that. It had no preexisting muscle memory, so you can’t blame that. They just put it in peoples hands in 2009, and said “This is android. Use it.”
And people didn’t need to watch tutorial videos. They didn’t need to learn new things. They just picked it up, knowing nothing about what a smart phone even was. In those days touch screens were even a novel new concept. And people just got it. They understood right from the start how it worked.
That’s what the fediverse needs. Simplicity that doesn’t need explaining, and cross adoption. So if you get a Lemmy account, it makes sense to get a pixelfed account instead of an Instgram.
But thats not what the developers of these systems are doing. That’s not whats being worked on. It never will. Don’t look for it. What we have is what we got. We might get a slight increase in users, but not anything significant. Because there is no unity in the decentralization.
An egotistical twat at the helm.
