Abravnel’s pictures show two bearded men wearing sunglasses and three other men wearing face coverings on board the boat. One of the men on board appeared to be holding an image of Mike Lindell, CEO of the My Pillow company. Lindell, who is a well-known Trump supporter, recently hit back against claims that his product pricing was inadvertently linked to neo-Nazi propaganda.
the boat has to have a registration usually, why not use that?
They’re Buddhists.
If there’s one thing we all know about Neo-Nazis, it’s that they never, ever, ever fuck up the swastika and these ones are clearly right-facing. So, namaste.
FYI, it’s not just a Buddhist symbol, but a general Asian symbol. My wife’s family is Hindu—she she most of her family were born in India. My family is Jewish, we’d moved from Poland to the Americas as a result of growing antisemitism/the Holocaust.
For our wedding weekend, we printed programs that included information about each other’s cultures to help our families mitigate any culture shock. Part of it was asking her family to refrain from using swastic symbols due to the negative connotation my family had associated because of Nazi appropriation. It also had notes informing my family of the history of the swastika and asking them to not be offended if they come across one. That anyone using swastic imagery is doing so out of love and is wishing peace upon us.
I realized this was a potential problem at an engagement party we’d had during Ganesh Chaturthi when the pundit drew swastikas on the Ganesha murti during their pooja. The only thing more shocking for me than seeing a house with 30+ people embrace a swastika was seeing a house with 30+ people casually embrace a swastika. (As pointed out, swastic symbols, since the direction and angle was different)
No, but of the left and right-facing, these are the most known. Especially with that specific simplicity.
There’s a historical place near my house (Southern California) that was built in 1903 and has a bunch of bas-relief swastikas in the decorations. They have little signs up explaining that the building predates adoption of the symbol by Nazis, but it’s really strange to walk around and see them.
The Swasitka shows up in a lot of places throughout history. Not just Asia.
Buddhists don’t also wear tottenkopf (death’s head) on their shirts. These are Nazis. If their flag is misprinted then they are stupid Nazis
Yeah, all our products cost 14.88 but that’s just a coincidence.
Someone I know who isn’t me wants to know how illegal it is to go and spray paint a swastika on Trump signs or the houses/driveways with a Trump sign.
He says it would be a good idea to remind everyone of who these people are and it would be visible for a bit longer.
IANAL but I looked into it -
In the US, political signs are considered private property so you could get arrested and charged with vandalism (if you get caught).
It’s unlikely you would be charged with trespassing (since that usually requires multiple repeat offenses on the same property).
It’s probably something you could beat in court as long as you don’t talk to the cops during your arrest and pay good lawyers.
Not legal at all, but legal and moral aren’t always the same. You just have to choose to accept the consequences.
How is it that Trump followers are pro Nazis and pro Israel at the same time? Or is it because Israel is starting to follow Nazis’ footsteps?
Well in some cases that’s complicated. Dominionists will support anyone that either will bring in the end times or the destruction of Israel because that’s part of their end time beliefs. They also support anyone that claims to be Christian. Supporting Israel until it is destroyed is all part of their convoluted fantasy life.
They’re both far-right ideologically, and it turns out the idea of “never again” to Zionists means "Never again to us"
…and the best way they believe to make sure of this, is by genociding other peoples.
So at the end of the day it’s Dominionism amd The Book of Revalations. It’s the idea that once the Jews take control of the holy land the apocalyptic prophesies in the Book of Revelations will be set into motion and God will come down from heaven and separate the 144,000 good holy people from the sinners who didn’t belive in God and take them into heaven, probably rapture style.
Being Pro Israel and a conservative isn’t really about caring about the history of prejudice the Jewish people have faced throughout much of history, it’s about using the Jewish people as a pawn in fulfilling a ~2000 year old prophesy.
I’m encouraged that this is becoming more well known
Watch Praying for Armageddon; I’ve seen other docs that cover this as well, but this is a fairly recent one.
Yuuuup.
I find it equal parts infuriating and hilarious… These motherfuckers want to pull some “Jesus hates this one trick!” type shit to trick their lord into appearing sooner than would “naturally” happen and they don’t think the all knowing all powerful God wouldn’t realize they had millions of people killed purposely for this? Their meddling and enabling is what would have that region in the state of war “required” for Armageddon…
Like what?
I believe in their view, it’s presented as ‘god can’t come back until conditions are right, don’t keep him waiting’
The answer to why god needs their help when he’s all powerful is some mumbling about tests of faith and the unknowable nature of the divine
Also, killing millions in his name? Old testament God is probably fully erect watching it.
It’s something I’ve noticed is pretty consistent across a lot of the very evangelical Protestant denominations, they have so many contradictions that just asking some veryxbasic questions just shorts out and they have to rely on thought terminating cliches. At least the less insane Protestant denominations and the Catholic Church try to maintain some level of actively grapple with the conflicting concepts. The catholic church for all its problems does have theologians throughout its history attempting to make more logical sense of the beliefs, even if many of those beliefs are somewhat nonsensical.
Fun fact: Kelsey Grammar (Frasier) is a proud Trump supporter and Christian who also publicly supported Roseanne Barr after she was fired from her show’s reboot for tweeting that one of Obama’s advisers was what happened when the “Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes had a baby”.
Big oof… What a “wonderful” person… Didn’t you know though, Roseanne was only racist because she was on Ambien!
Side effects may include: dizziness, upset stomach, headaches, slight fascist tendencies, blurred vision, and racism.
And literally multiple times in the gospels Jesus literally says none of us will know the day or the hour of his return. And so many people take the Book of Revalations at face value rather than understanding it as more of an encoded hit piece against most likely Emperor Nero who very much ramped up persecution against the early Christians. Basically saying, this Nero guy is a piece of shit but don’t lose faith.
It has to do with what they believe is predicted in Revelations, which is to say in order to bring about the Second coming they need a mountain of dead Jews. Best way to ensure that outcome is to vehemently support Israel as their genocidal wars spiral out of control. That’s why Trump moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem, it’s symbolic to the Christian Nationalists
The actual mid-20th century German Nazis wanted to create an Israel, although they intended on it being in a different place. It was basically their way to “justify” deporting every Jew
They only support Israel because they hate Muslims more.
And because the religious sect believes they need the Jews to bring Armageddon/the rapture.
Conservatives aren’t actually Christian, you realize? It’s all virtue signaling to disguise being vile snakes out to enrich themselves and their families, while actively fucking over the rest of the country/world to get there.
Dont fall into the rhetoric, those arguments are a distraction.
The xtian nationalists/zionists would declare they are the ONLY xtians. It’s not a distraction at all; their goofy bullshit about their chosen version of the various Abrahamic cults is something they absolutely believe in and it’s dragging down all of humanity.
Sorry, point taken. I definitely was directing my “Conservatives” comment specifically at conservatives in the government.
Obviously, my comment was. HUGE blanket generalization, which is never a great stance.
It’s sad you’re being downvoted by “Reddit Atheist” types
Not all conservatives are the same. I know plenty of the staunchly religious type. Two things can be true at the same time.
Dumbasses missed the point of your post. You are absolutely right. Their religiosity is performative to mask the fact that they are just shit human beings.
You’re mistaken. While I would agree that most conservative politicians, pundits, and mouthpieces are con artists who don’t actually believe most of the religious bullshit they pander, the average conservative voter does trend significantly more religious. This is true practically everywhere in the world. Religion is the primary source of conservative beliefs and ideology.
It’s all virtue signaling to disguise being vile snakes out to enrich themselves and their families, while actively fucking over the rest of the country/world to get there.
Those republicans use identity politics and religion to control the votes of evangelical/fundamentalist christians.
“The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy, but we’ll tolerate them while they kill the right people.”
Nazis love the idea of a single state for each group of people. They love it as a destination for deportations fulfilling their short-term bigoted plans.
Of course their long-term bigoted plans are invasion, stealing resources, and mass murder.
They’re different subgroups
there is that, but I think also many republicans have a weird cognitive dissonance where they’re antisemitic in general, but still very pro-israel/zionist because of fundamental christianity, and/or they are even more islamaphobic than antisemitic.
Honestly I could see some of them being stupid enough to think Isreal is majority Christian. Like they’d be “ethnically Jewish” but Christian religion.
I think that they are pro-Israel because they want all the American Jews to move there to rid them of “the problem” of American Jews. Think of them like national segregationists - they don’t mind Jewish people existing as long as they are “over there”. And it’s also in Israel’s interest to project themselves as the only place in the world where Jews can be safe.
It’s a place created as a home for jews pretty much by antisemites, with the main idea being “we’re okay with jews but only if they’re not in our country”.
There’s a lot of fascinating history about the creation of Israel by antisemites that you can find, but the gist is that zionism and antisemitism often go hand in hand, and it seems this has not really changed.
Some of it is rooted in xtian zionism, and it’s not because they have any special regard for Jews other than as pawns for their dopey eschatological notions. They just think the Jews have to be in Israel to fulfill prophecies that involve a magical Jewish carpenter coming back (and killing most of the Jews, by the way).
The cynical support for Israel is something that runs very, very deep with the xtian nationalists. There have been various documentaries that touch on this, but one of the more recent ones I’ve seen (and remember the name of) is: “Praying for Armageddon”.
I mean I have a tiny bit of respect for Beardy McNazi in the back there, not afraid to show his facist face. A tiny bit. Maybe an iota.
Seems the Mike Pillows dog whistle pricing reached its intended audience too.
88.88? What’s the price?
Eugh. Thanks.
FL 2205 TD. I wonder who that’s registered to?
Tonal Drump
I like how the top 2 comments imply that all the trump supports are nazi supporters, despite the article explicitly stating that the boat was a known anti-semitic person who has tried to stir shit up in europe as well. There is even a video of trump supports splashing the boat to try to get them out of the parade: https://twitter.com/i/status/1845629364525846602
I think I’m going to stop interacting with political feeds until after the election. It seems obvious that party politics are in full swing, and everyone is trying to demonize the other by making strawman arguments. Please, just vote logically and for the rights and justifications that are at stake, not because you think your fellow americans that disagree with you are anti-semitic.
Dementia donnie has said he doesn’t care about the Constitution and that he wants to be a dictator on day one. He’s made many, many statements that are clearly fascist.
If people still support him after that, what do you call those people?
From my conversations with Trump supporters, they typically acknowledge Trump is a bad choice and don’t like the way he acts, talks, etc. They typically view what Trump says as an exaggeration, saying things like “he won’t actually xyz”.
Universally, people I know that support Trump in real life, support him either because they are Christian, and feel that the Democratic party is against their core values. Or, they feel some kind of hatred against leftists, because of propoganda they have been fed.
That’s the way I see reality. There are extremists on both sides, but I refuse to stop believing that Trumpists aren’t voting with what they believe is best for America, even if I personally disagree with them.
I really dislike these discussions that paint the other side of a political battle as something insane like Nazi’s, that just isn’t real, and it makes me so sad to see people either believing it, or feeding the cycle by adding to the joke.
They are still supporting him. If they say “he won’t really do X”, they are just lying to others and to themselves - I’m sure that deep down, they know full well he means it and they are okay with it.
There are NOT extremists on both sides in the same degree and intensity that the right has extremists. Watch “Against All Enemies” and let me know what the leftist equivalent is. The right has people that want to plunge this country into a literal, shooting, civil war. The left has people that want universal healthcare, UBI, cops that respect everyone, clean air and clean water, retirement with dignity, jobs with dignity and so on. These are not the same thing.
I know these people closely, you do not. I don’t think they expect him to go full on dictator. Maybe thats true for some other Trumpists, majority not true for the ones I know.
Talking points you brought up seem to be a strawman. For Christians, a big reason they vote for Trump is because the Republican party has taken a hard stance on not allowing abortion. For many, many Christians, that is as serious a topic, as facism is on left-wing discussion forums.
And again, their voting ideology is not so clear cut. They don’t support Trump because they believe he is perfect in every category, rather, he checks the one box (or rather, his party) that is extremely controversial and important to them.
Also yeah, right-wing extremists are more common then left-wing. So there is a concern there. I stand by what I said though, that the majority of Trump voters do not support extremist action.
the majority of Trump voters do not support extremist action.
They support Trump. That is an extremist action.
Nazis supporting Trump is PROOF that only REAL Jews Support Trump!
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very kind of that Nazi rally attendee to inform us
They’re just astral projecting there
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Are the Swastika flags black because they are “dark MAGA” like Elon? /s
Florida? Swastikas?… wait- yeah, that tracks.
This known neonazi did a thing, unable to figure out if it’s antifa or not. Lolwhut
Why? Are Confederate flags too passé for them now?
No, they just ferl that they don’t have to hide their identity anymore
No need for dog whistles anymore, they’ve moved on to airhornes.
Guarantee that guy is a power bottom that simply cannot accept himself.
