• TommySoda@lemmy.world
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    Oooohhhh, when they said “the good old days” they meant 1400s. That makes so much more sense.

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    In science a theory is not enforced, it’s proven. If he believes whatever his worm is thinking to be true, go to a lab and get evidences for it. It’s not the European middle age anymore.

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        The rest of the world will be fine like when mao had the birds shot or when USSR relied on Lysenko instead of Vavilov. The US…people are going to have to get ok with shitty living real fast. Ironically, this giant reduction in the ability to consume will likely be great for the average carbon footprint.

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          I’m so glad there’s an ocean between us for when the shooting starts… Not that the collapse of the US won’t have enormous geopolitical ramifications, most of them bad.

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            inb4 American refugees on mobility scooters are roaming our European streets and complaining about the lack of parking spots

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      Strictly speaking while you can prove things in mathematics, in science you can only disprove things. A theory which survives for a long time after a large number of experiments is widely accepted and can be trusted, but it is not proven.

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        What do you mean by strictly speaking? Germ theory was proven by Pasteur experiments in the 19th century and confirmed by countless of scientists throughout the 20th Century to this day. What more proof do you want when you can literally see bacteria expand and colonize a medium?

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          And what if there is a discovery tomorrow that undos all that knowledge even though we have hundreds of years saying it’s true, OK so now you get it or do I have to explain further?

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            Please explain further. As of today when someone has a bacterial infection you have a direct evidence of it, you use an antibiotic, you kill the bacteria, you cure the illness. No miasmia, humors or worms involved. It’s like you are saying we have a space photo for a round earth but what if a discovery undo it tomorrow.

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    Well, in that case he surely wouldn’t mind getting a shot of rabies virus, probably mixed with Ebola and Marburg. Just germs, nothing to worry about!

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    Now we’re at the core of it. These morons never believed in germ theory at all. Nevermind the fact that at this point you can actually look at germs in a microscope.

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    “Alternate theory.” Oh dear god, it’s miasma, isn’t it.

    Ok… he was aiming for miasma, but missed. We’re doomed.

    He wrote an entire section on it in his 2021 book vilifying Fauci, titled The Real Anthony Fauci. The section is titled “Miasma vs. Germ Theory,” in the chapter “The White Man’s Burden.” […] Kennedy contrasts his erroneous take on miasma theory with germ theory, which he derides as a tool of the pharmaceutical industry and pushy scientists to justify selling modern medicines. The abandonment of miasma theory, Kennedy bemoans, realigned health and medical institutions to “the pharmaceutical paradigm that emphasized targeting particular germs with specific drugs rather than fortifying the immune system through healthy living, clean water, and good nutrition.”

    Edit: Apparently “The White Man’s Burden” is a racist poem by Rudyard Kipling from 1899 about how the US should colonize the Philippines… the “half devil, half child” people of the Philippines… Curious what that has to do with antiquated ideas about illness, but I’m afraid reading his book might give me brain worms. That’s how contagions work, right…?

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      Excuse me? In the chapter “The What, Now!!!” Holy fucking christ… dude is pre-Darwinian in his takes.

      Edit: autocorrect

      Also, I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.

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        It’s worse than you think.

        The miasma part is pre-germ. The worst part is what’s following. The immune system and healthy living part is an ideology that is popular in the New Age beliefs. It was very popular in some communities in the 60s and 70s. But, it’s an older ideology about health. The Nazi themselves used this and believed (at least partially) in the immune system bullshit. They all base their beliefs on a German umbrella term and movement, the Lebensreform (German Wikipedia for a longer article )

        It was promoted by wealthy bourgeois that lived in urban and industrialized areas of Germany, Switzerland, and Austria. The intent was a natural and healthy lifestyle to counter the detrimental effects of industrialization, urban living, and “modernity” on health and overall well-being. It included for example organic food, alternative medicine but also spiritual and religious beliefs.

        I highly recommend reading some lines about it. It helps to understand RFK Jr. and where his bullshit comes from.

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          It looks like these things are all over the board, going from useless and detrimental, to actually good, most of them contextual.

          It’s like rfkj got brain damage and then tried to make sense if it. It’s like he almost gets it but then veers off to the side.

          I was actually just talking to a person about this. How it’s pretty easy to pursue truth of a topic and continue down the wrong road, all just from a wrong premise or even a missing fact that gives you the wrong perspective and direction. Continuing to deepen an “understanding” of something, stubbornly. Add cognitive biases to a deep impairment, and now you’re ready to run the United States apparently.

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      The white man’s burden is also used referentially to call out people who do things like travel to poor countries to build houses even though they have far less building experience than locals and the money they paid to get there would have gone much further, had it simply been donated in the form of building materials.

      I don’t know how RFK Jr. is using it, but it almost certainly makes no sense.

      Edit: oh, voluntourism! I knew there was a term for it