So this is effectively an ad for the COVID vaccines, hello the walk in appointment I’m actively waiting for! I’ll have fun getting it in 5-10 minutes!
Family members just went in yesterday for shots at CVS, but Covid isn’t in yet. They’re thinking early September. So they got flu and something else.
If it comes out in early September, I’d get my butt in there right away, before they ban it.
Fucking psychopaths.
They didn’t have the new version only last years, still got it though.
Somebody needs to infect them both
I recall Trump has already had it.
I’ve had it 3 times. Viruses mutate all the time so his favor is probably already out of date
I almost hope there is another huge pandemic, it would probably be the best and easiest way of fighting the war against fascism in America.
It did a pretty good job on them the first time. Fingers crossed for COVID 2: The Defuckening
I have been feeling the same way. I am kinda in a " I hope it all burns down. Then they will understand how stupid they are" mood about things as of late.
If there is a 2nd American Civil War, I would be alright with conservatives not having vaccines. Disease was the #1 cause of fatalities in warfare, and I would like to have fewer enemies to fight.
I dont really know much about this but I know youre probably right in the context of the world wars.
Was it Spanish flu? IDK, but poor nutrition, hygiene, and close proximity in the trenches was a huge factor.
In a present day war, it would probably be different? Still some “dug in” defences but far more ranged, airborne, and remotely controlled armaments.
When it comes to disease and medicine, the two most valuable things for preserving life, is infrastructure (shelter), and logistics. Back in WW2, troops that ended up in places far from urban hubs tended to be exposed to the elements or had to string out their supplies. As such, they tended to die from a mixture of cold, mosquitos, heat, famine, wet, and filth. Where America is concerned, it SHOULD be relatively safe for most soldiers, because there is an abundance of roads that pass by some form of shelter.
However, I suspect that the Trump Regime would have difficulty with managing logistics. It seems like that they don’t value nor understand supply chains or other fine details. The National Guard troops that were deployed to LA, for example, didn’t have bedding for resting. While those troops can tank an one-off like that, the Regime has been dismantling all sorts of things that keep people in tip-top shape. For example, the erosion of the weather service, means that soldiers will be more easily exposed to bad conditions. The destruction of food quality inspection, means that troops are more likely to have bad rations. Medical services are being rolled back, too. Trade with foreign nations is also likely to be cut off or reduced, which also means that troops could be lacking boots. (Quality boots are literal life or death for deployed troops.) All of this adds up to troops becoming vulnerable to the Four Horsemen.
It is my expectation that the Blue States would win a prolonged civil war, simply because they tend to understand the implications of policy.
While not directly related to vaccines, the latest episode of Perun goes over the economics of soldiers, including medical costs. It is a good channel if you want analysis about modern conflicts. I wouldn’t be surprised if Perun starts covering America itself in the coming decade.
The Long-Term Costs of War - The Price of Life, Economics of Casualties & Russia’s War
I suspect you know far more about warfare generally than myself.
I agree that the Trump administration doesn’t care for small unsexy details like logistics, however I’m certain that the US army cares a great detail about it, and has the requisite knowledge, infrastructure, and culture to get it right.
The national guard troops in LA example isn’t really indicative of what would happen in a civil war. It was a temporary issue.
Your expectation that the Blue States might win a prolonged war based on their attention to the mundane might be sensible if both sides command relatively equal air land and sea hardware. However, it seems much more likely to me that such a conflict would be fairly short lived. If one side had a majority of the armed forces line up behind them then they’re the winner before you even get started really.
I only have intermediate knowledge. Most of it comes from sources like Behind the Bastards, Lions Led by Donkeys, Perun, Civilis Historia, Ken Burn’s Civil War, Ken Burn’s Vietnam, and so forth. You will have to ask a veteran officer or historian for better information. Anyhow, I will relate what I vaguely recall.
The Trump Regime has been doing many things to erode the competence and loyalty of the federal military. For example, destroying the cultural clubs that soldiers were part of, removing medical care from LGBTQ+ members, eliminating proven minority leadership and replacing them with white dudes like Hegseth, whitewashing history like the ‘Enola Gay’ from military libraries, and so on. This also applies to three-letter agencies. In effect, the most capable soldiery of America’s military is no longer part of the federal government, which allows them to be hired by Blue States.
Also, the United States are huge. Short of decapitating the majority of Blue State leadership in one fell blow, it is unlikely for the Trump Regime to own the majority of the military. The soldiers and their leaders are much more likely to be loyal to their respective states than the concept of the United States, especially if the federal government has been mistreating them. Trump himself said that soldiers are suckers, and they will remember such acts of disrespect towards their service. Soldiers are not automated drones, they have thoughts and feelings, as many an empire has fatally discovered.
After the 1st American Civil War was declared, many people throughout the nation moved around to wherever was more ideologically suited to them. You had southerners joining the north’s military, and the reverse. If a new civil war breaks out, it is very likely that the half of the first year would be spent on shuffling around men and hardware, alongside communities deciding where they belong. It would be extremely messy, and won’t lend itself to an instant resolution of a war.
I think you are right about most of the things you are saying. But for all the bad to trickel down to the troops will take years.
I was in the Marine corps for 10 years. I can’t tell you who the generals where back then. It didn’t really matter, all the training is done by experts at much lower ranks.
So my point is, that while yes the upper leadership is bad, the acually boots on the ground soldiers still know how to fight as well as they did a few years ago. It could take years for the rot at the top to creep down through all levels.
It is my expectation that the Blue States would win a prolonged civil war, simply because they tend to understand the implications of policy.
The sheer economics of it are on the side of the blue states; they have a net positive economic output, while red states have a net negative economic output. If they were at war, instead of the blue states propping the red up, that’s no longer sustainable
The one time when coughing in crowded spaces would be socially acceptable and morally just.
Its probably just anxiety but since the last one I haven’t been able to shake the feeling that another is inevitable.
I don’t mean to increase your anxiety but another one IS inevitable. Pandemics come and go, our massively interconnected world is the perfect breeding ground for them. You can see and hear real experts talking about it a few years ago to Congress. They said another massive one is likely within the next decade. A quick googling will give you articles from every major medical school. This will leave us radically unprepared, not that they care.
I’m worried that the next pandemic is polio.
You may just have a choice:
- TB, on the rise
- Yellow fever - a real risk
- Dengue - Yep that one is gaining momentum
In absofuckinglutely horrifying recent news: https://www.npr.org/2025/08/25/nx-s1-5515487/new-world-screwworm-us-human-case
Though I think that’ll just fuck up our dairy and beef supply more than people.
This reads like fake news. I don’t believe they are that idiotic.
Oh fuck.
Really, you don’t? They are the dumbest people I’ve ever seen.
Two idiots are better than one.
Glad I got my yearly last month. Guess next year I’ll have to go to Mexico?
I heard repeatedly “you should have the freedom to choose to be vaccinated or not”. Are those people going to just as vigorously argue against banning it?
Are they moving this project forward at Warp Speed by any chance?
They are. They found zero useful resistance, so there is no point in slow walking it anymore.
Vaccine skepticism isn’t so much about vaccines per se, it’s following a small movement that grew organically and fanning the flames instead of letting it die in obscurity. The purpose here is using it as a vehicle for promoting skepticism of tried and true science.
What’s the greatest enemy of authority? Tried and true facts with no room for dispute. By effectively undermining vaccines, the way is paved to continue to sow doubt and skepticism for other science, making it easier to dispute facts that can and will undermine authority without thus skepticism.
Yes, the added benefit is population control and distraction. If people are sicker and more financially blown up by medical bills they’re far too busy and demoralized to engage in revolution. And there’s less of them due to death. Brain fog from long COVID is beneficial as well.
In addition, they can pocket the funding that would otherwise go to vaccine programs.
It’s perfect, from an authoritarian viewpoint.
If people are sicker and more financially blown up by medical bills they’re far too busy and demoralized to engage in revolution
The people I would fear the most would be those with nothing to lose.
That’s a fair point, but how many terminal cancer patients have you seen make headlines for Luigi style acts?
One of the more interesting points of that odd but good Stewart podcast in which he, a historian who studies revolutions, and the writer of Andor discussed re revolutions is how often things don’t happen even when all the formulaic boxes are checked. There is a list, a recipe, for revolution, but even when all the ingredients are there; it often fizzles.
Same thing regarding what you’re saying, I think.
Which is most of the population at this point. I think this will probably end up being a reminder of the old saying, “Don’t count your chickens before they hatch.”
100%.
It also is one of the conspiracy theories that cross party lines.
The youtuber/failed mythbuster Allen Pan did a video where he made a “vaccine gun” that turned into him being terrified of angering his black camera woman and it turning into a heartfelt video where they both go to “the rich white people CVS” to get their vaccines.
And ignoring that he is a piece of shit with borderline minstrel tendencies, it also kind of summed up a lot of what we saw in 2020/2021. We have a fucking miracle cure that can fix society! A bunch of idiots refuse to get vaccinated. So people decide to clown on them.
Oh shit! We are all racist assholes and the real villains because of the Tuskegee Experiment over 50 years ago! Okay, SOME people have very valid reasons for not getting vaccinated but only them. Fuck, Willowbrook back in the 60s? And Guatemala in the 40s?
Okay… people are allowed to not want to get vaccinated, I guess? And fuck anyone who is immunocompromised or otherwise at risk because they are also racists for caring about living?
And it also “helps” that it plays into the focused effort to vilify academics that we have seen, fairly globally, since the mid-late 20th century.
And, don’t get me wrong, absolutely nobody deserves to be in an unethical human experimentation. But… if people actually research the history of medicine they would never want to let any doctor even look at them. Except… that isn’t the case. Because, yeah, some REAL fucking evil happened and so has a lot of gross incompetence. Medicine learns from that and actually has philosophical discussions so that even borderline stuff never happens again.
When are this years shots going to be available?
It was essential and without alternative when it was new, and it’s stupid to ban it, as it’s still a great choice now, but for most people, non-mRNA alternatives are about as good.
A stupid move, yet possibly with few consequences. I got 2 % of my “fortune” in Moderna stocks though, lol.
Far worse is EU and its member states, which just delayed the release of the new adapted one just enough that everybody can meet in class for 3 weeks after returning from summer vacation before getting it. Although it was ready for shipping a long, long time ago. More madness than the US, for once.
Can’t have anything that helps people
So they are banning the vaccine that the “trump administration made” …… America is a third world country and I want out of it asap.
Quit being a shit ass and posting daily beast article articles here they’re basically leftist propaganda
