A society is always about 3 days of hunger away from a violent revolution. Start your clocks.
Not an American but if the government shutsdown and they are cancelling programs, shouldn’t you not have to pay taxes for that time period?
Lol
It would be like withholding rent from your landlord until they repaired your heating. You’d have to still place the money in escrow to prove to a judge you had the money intended to pay.
Most working people have their estimated taxes deducted from their pay before they receive it. They don’t have an option to not pay.
Well, that one congressional district that has their congress person being kept out should definitely not have to pay because that would be a taxation when they have no representation.
Also, several congresspeople have said that they “don’t represent the Democrats” in their districts. I think that, too, should immediately exempt those residents from taxes.
You can fill out a form and send it to your HR/payroll department to adjust your withholdings at anytime, and they are supposed to do so no questions asked.
The employee not paying their income tax does not actually have an adverse impact on the employer, so they don’t care. Of course, the employee still has the legal obligation to pay; but breaking tax law is pretty inherent with tax protest.
This administration needs to be concerned about what happens when you have millions of people with nothing to lose anymore.
They want that
It’s mostly red states that get food stamps. …
yhea they want escalation.
but that doesn’t mean the best strategy is to do nothing.
Totally. But they have been begging for “Civil War”. Like it’s some Hero’s Journey and people won’t die. It’s so short sided and dumb I can’t believe they actually believe it’s for the better.
mate, it’s fascism, would you tell the french resistance against nazis to chill, because nazis want an excuse to escalate?
You can only get your civil war if there are two clear sides, divisible by geography and cultural lines.
When you just have a widespread, starving population, you get mobs and mass riots and government leadership dragged out of their homes and offices.
I am not sure at all what their game is. I know they want the chaos but surely they can’t be so dumb that they think this will… oh yeah, lol caught myself there. They’re that dumb.
DT is probably just thinking back fondly of his last visit to North Korea.
“Hey, what if I did that?!”
Just a reminder that no one steals food in America. If you thought you saw someone shoplifting food, no you didn’t! That never happened, you imagined it, turn around and walk away, nothing to report here.
This is what dump wants. He’s already mobilised his incels and provided ample firepower.
Let them eat cake !
Fact: absolutely none of this would have happened if Kamala had won.
But uh but shes a woman. A brown woman. The horror,!
Yeah. But we would be listening to that laugh. I mean, did you even hear it?
I don’t think people are understanding your obvious sarcasm.
Yeah. That’s not surprising. The only thing worse than my sarcasm is a tan suit.
But she was going to kill Palestinians with her bare hands!
Republicans don’t give a fuck if they kill people by withholding healthcare, obviously they don’t give a fuck if people starve.
At some point the Democrats have got to realize this and start acting accordingly, but Democrats are still bending the knee: 13 Senate Democrats just voted to install a conservative judge in Alabama.
Republicans don’t give a fuck if they kill people by withholding healthcare, obviously they don’t give a fuck if people starve.
Maybe that’s why they love Israel so much?
The leopards! They hunger!
Thing is, it’s gonna hit the rural MAGA folks the hardest.
There’s a part of me that wants to go “I told you so…” which is expected…
But the more cunning part of me wants to leverage their hunger, dismay and rage and work to aim it squarely against Trump and the entire MAGA movement.
I’d like to have empathy, and publicly I won’t call out these hypocrites, but I honestly can’t care less if these fuckers starve. I feel bad for the children and helpless that are affected, but the others that voted for this are reaping what they sow.
Yeah, but “he’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting”.
I try to have compassion for people that have made bad choices in their lives, but fucking hell, it is really hard to sustain that for people that voted to hurt other people. Actively wanting that to happen. Not to really improve their own lot in life, but to hurt others.
Exactly. I don’t enjoy or actively seek the hurting of these individuals, but I can’t keep caring about people that repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot. I can empathize with people that make a mistake. I will go so far as to say that people that voted for Trump in 2016 fucked up, but that they made a forgivable mistake. I can’t do that for anyone that voted for him in 2024. There are no excuses. He was a known commodity that detailed exactly how he was going to rule if elected again. Nothing that he had done since January is a surprise at all. There are plenty of rural residents that are grouped with the majority that voted for Trump that unfortunately are being punished for the actions of their neighbors. I have the most sympathy for those families as they aren’t just most heavily affected, but they are grouped up with those other terrorist supporters. The rest, other than the innocent children, can sleep in the bed they made with empty stomach and crippling debt.
They’ll whisper “owned the libs” with their keto breath and die of starvation before they admit their orange god is a fraud.
It’s hitting visible minorities the hardest. That’s clear. God forbid you speak Spanish and look “Mexican”… MAGA will come in at second-worst, perhaps, and some of them will be happy about that.
I’m a moderately intimidating-looking white guy and the fear in the eyes of all the little latina moms in the supermarket when they look at me… It’s so tragic. I’m just trying to be as polite and accommodating as possible whenever I can to quell their fears. Feels like the social fabric is just melting around us.
Good we should stop paying our taxes.
if there isn’t a government, why pay taxes to it?
actually, stupid question. but what percentage of people could do a tax strike, resulting in the government having no funds or means to go after all of them. and collapsing?
Vast majority of working people have federal taxes automatically deducted from their checks before they even see a dime. Most people get refunds at the end of the year instead of having to pay, so it would be up to the self-employed and basically anyone who doesn’t file a simple form to start withholding their taxes.
I guess we could talk about getting everyone to adjust their paycheck withholdings but most people live under the assumption that “everything will blow over by next year” whatever the circumstances.
The issue is they will just write IOUs. It’s not like they can’t. They can also literally print money. So.
Can any Americans explain to me, a Canadian, how it makes sense for essential services like food benefits to be suspended just because your government can’t get their shit together?
Like, genuine question here; how is this is a good system? How does your country benefit from things being designed this way? I’m not saying we don’t ever have political deadlock in Canada, we most certainly do, but even as someone who gets half my household income from the military, I’ve never had to worry about a missed paycheck just because politicians are being stupid. We have failsafes for that. Why don’t you?
So fun fact, the shutdowns came from a legal opinion of the AG in the 80s, and they didn’t even adhere to that decision until a decade later, except for the first time. Reagan wanted the government shutdown to force Congress hands to cut more then they wanted to.
Then for the rest of the 80s and some 90s everybody ignored that AG decision until 1995 when Newt Gingrich (man that fuck was bad for the country) got into a fight with Clinton over spending and then all of the sudden the AG opinion mattered again.
Both sides.
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Biden is old, you see, and there was also a woman who wasn’t exactly adamant about Israel, so you have to starve now. But don’t worry, if you starve enough, something will surely happen. And if not, at least there will be a civil war, isn’t that great? You get to die in a random shootout, isn’t that wonderful? So glad we didn’t vote so this lady didn’t win.
True, but as for the last part -
we didn’t vote
We actually did. The even more depressing reality is the last three presidential elections had the highest turnout of registered voters and young voters in American history.
What’s fucked up is that exit polling showed that most people were entirely tuned-out and saw no difference between the candidates because most people don’t watch the news or politics, most people are uninformed on basic science and reason, most people have curated social media feeds that push attention-span erosion and right-wing propaganda, and a good QUARTER of the adult population of America is functionally illiterate. Meaning studies have shown that 22% or more of adults in the US cannot read more than a couple words strung together or have to piece together sentences contextually. They can work, they can answer text messages, but are incapable of assembling paragraphs and forming complex abstractions.
We’re fucked on a level that is hard to convey.
Also there’s statistical evidence that the vote was manipulated…
https://electiontruthalliance.org/2024-us-election-analysis/
It’s mostly going to be the elderly who suffer. People just forget about old people. They can’t get out and go stand in line at food pantries.
Sometimes they don’t have anyone checking on them very often.
Most don’t know how to get online and find services and such.
If you have an elderly neighbor or family member. Try to check with them and see if they need help.
But it’s OK: Kristi Noem gets two $170,000,000 private jets, Trump gets a golden ballroom, a luxury airliner and billions of dollars in bribes, Argentina gets $40,000,000,000, and ICE get all the weaponry they desire plus big fat bonuses for hitting their kidnapping targets. So as you sit hungry through the holiday season, know that your tax dollars are at least giving someone a good time.
Don’t forget the $250 million that he feels he is owed by the DOJ for being prosecuted, which he intends to instruct the DOJ to settle and pay.
Let’s instead phrase it that ICE gets more budget for militarization than the entire Israeli military.
Just let that sink in for a bit. ICE and resources allocated than the Israeli military.
It’s the 16th most funded militarized force in the world.
Essentially equal to Canada’s military budget.
Shits fucked
What the fuck. I know Republicans despise poor people and think they can just magically pick themselves up by their own bootstraps, but… People still need to eat! We obviously have to! Hoping no one I know is hurt in the upcoming riots and crime.
In the meantime, please consider donating to food banks and nonprofit organizations, since apparently none of our tax dollars will go to helping those less fortunate…
People still need to eat! We obviously have to!
Eat the rich?
Mostly plastic, huffed farts, and inbred bitterness. Not healthy eatin’.
Fertilizer, however… There’s a plan.
I hear pigs can go through bone like butter.
IIRC, ya gotta prep by shavin’ the hair off and pullin’ the teeth out (for the sake of the piggies’ digestion). 16 pigs’ll go through 200lbs in ~8 minutes. That means that a single pig can consume 2lbs of uncooked flesh every 60secs.
Hence the expression, “as greedy as a pig”.
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