Seems Johnson knows this. Both him and Trump will keep this shutdown going to stop the forced release of these files it seems. Don’t know what kind of plan they’re cooking up though.

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    The files they don’t have that don’t exist that don’t incriminate anyone on a list that is not real that is a hoax is worse than they ever imagined.

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    Yup. Keep your eye on the prize. It’s shocking and sad that a whole political party got culty for a pedo, but here we are.

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    It must be really bad if

    s/Donald Trump/Bill Clinton/g

    couldnt fix it

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    RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES PEDONALD

    I wouldn’t doubt it if he diddled little boys too. Or at least laughed when his close friends did. Disgusting fucking cancer…

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    Remember, this case is about dozens of rich men raping young girls and the only person who’s in jail is a women.

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        I’m still confused, about how Epstein being suicided in jail during Trump presidency, and conservatives are blaming Hillary.

        As far as conspiracies go, this one is exceptionally stupid

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          There are also a lot of people who were in power during Trump’s first presidency who blame things that happened then on Biden. They seem to often choose things close to 2021 so they’re either doing it on purpose or just experiencing the effects of their aged minds blurring things together, combined with unmatched stupidity.

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              The Dunning-Kruger effect, confirmation bias, propaganda and echo chambers prove a potent mixture.

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                yhea, but to end up with such twisted view of reality?

                it’s like they watch that episode of Star Trek and laugh how Picard cant count the five lights.

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            These people people blamed Obama for 9/11. They’re not to be taken seriously and avoided at all costs.

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          I’ll say. The first time I heard it, I literally LOL’ed, and thought that somehow they managed to top themselves in idiocy in the “Hillary murder” department.

          I mean, they seemingly think that Hillary somehow killed Scalia and then there was all the 90s black helicopter idiocy of the “Clinton body count” email forwards. And this was even stupider than all that. I mean…WTF? Hillary? How was she going to do anything to Epstein? Pedonald was in the WH and she held no office.

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    It was obvious this was the case when they fought so hard to prevent the release. They continued with it even when it’s clear that the actions they’re taking to keep it hidden it’s damaging for them.

    My bet is that there’s video evidence of Trump raping a minor, or maybe a recording of him admitting it. I don’t know what else could be more damning than that.

    At this rate they’re gonna keep this up until Trump dies.

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      How is that more dancing then what he has already said. Walking in on miss green US change rooms grabbing them by the pussy. He has literally admitted to sexual assaulting the contestants and nobody cares. Just like when/if these files come out nobody well care.

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        I don’t think that nobody will care, but I think the point you’re trying to make is that his supporters won’t care. That we can definitely agree upon.

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        Trump wasn’t just a customer. He was Epstein’s partner and Mar-a-Lago was a hub for international sex trafficking, including child sex trafficking.

        They’re not the Epstein files. They’re the Trump files.

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          This is my thought as well. He has to be in there to such an extent that if they removed all mention of him, what was left would fit on a fucking post it. Otherwise they would have tried to release it with a few pages “lost” and blamed Biden.

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        I think there’s evidence that they were business partners in the trafficking operation. Trump owned children beauty pageants, he had girl servants at one of his resorts, reports of some of those girls winding up with Epstein… I bet there are financial transactions proving it.

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          Yep, this is the big story in it I think as well. Sen. Ron Wyden has been investigating the Epstein financial ties and has uncovered billions in suspect wire transfers that several big banks bent the rules on for him.

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            The reason for their fall out was because of these financial ties. They’ve admitted this part.

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          Not to mention the deep ties all of this has with Mossad, the British royalty through Prince Andrew, the Clintons, Bill Gates (look how he has flipped his script lately)…… all the clearly documented high profile people involved, we have heard little snippets about their unusual sexual behavior but never the full Monty. I think it’s Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein levels of the looking the other way and covering things up for years. But this time it’s the leaders of nations and industry caught with their pants down.

          If I was a CIA/mossad agent looking to have leverage on leaders, I would throw lavish parties. Invite everyone important. Keep it straight up at first, then ease into giving small hints about the availability of party favors and women and see who bites. Trap them in unfavorable situations and use that to coerce. Pretty straight forward. If it’s damning enough, you own them.

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      I don’t know what else could be more damning than that.

      Like their podcast “heroes”, I’m just asking questions here, but:

      What if Trump didn’t just rape kids? He had beauty pageants where he admitted to walking in on naked teenagers to “inspect” them. He walked around “interviewing” contestants, asking them about their lives. He himself specifically chose a decent percentage of the finalists - and by claiming those spots for certain chosen people, significantly reduced the chances for other contestants. And there were not only the contestants, but a bunch of wannabe contestant-types on the fringes. And a lot of those contests were held overseas.

      So, just asking questions here, but: what if Donald Trump wasn’t just raping kids? What if he was actively involved in recruiting and trafficking them?

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        This was my thought as well. A lot of what has come to light feels like he may have been more than a customer for Epstein and possibly a supplier via his businesses and Russian criminal contacts

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        It’s hard to speculate on things like that, but when he openly admitted to reporters that Epstein took girls from his spa, it means the investigation would have to be reviewing such

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        Perhaps Trump is also a cannibal; who knows, maybe… the man doesn’t seem to have any morals at all.

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          Well we know his food preferences are worse than abysmal so. I doubt the cannibal thing unless the baby is well done with ketchup.

          Still with trump it never gets better you know?

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      I don’t know what else could be more damning than that.

      Active participation in not just the rape but the trafficking operation, the big reveal being that he actually solicited these “services” to tons of so far unnamed people?

      Remember this isn’t just about Trump. He’s protecting those padding his pockets and pulling his strings.

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        Don’t forget killing. Maybe they pushed an underage girl out of a jet at altitude. Wouldn’t be off brand.

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          Not easy or safe to the passengers on the plane. It also doesn’t disappear the body.

          Overall this seems like the least likely thing that could have happened.

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            I do sometimes wonder about some people’s fantasies about planes. It would have been much simpler to kill someone on the island and use the gigantic amount of water to hide evidence. Simply putting a body in a ‘shark cage’ would be enough to have everything but the bones disappear, pushing it out to sea would almost certainly have it never be found, hell, simply doing with it whatever you do with the rest of your trash would probably work… like, when you own an island, the amount of ways you have to hide things is insane.

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    How many people have access to the files right now? Not a single one is doing the right thing. Complicit. If I happened across those files, they would have to murder me to stop them leaking. The level of apathy genuinely makes me wonder if it’s wickedness or some sort of actual brain damage from some chemical or virus we haven’t found yet.

    Fuck

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      Did you not notice the part where Epstein committed suicide, Giuffre was hit by a bus, survived, and then committed suicide, and Maxwell was paid a closed-door visit by Trump’s personal fixer?

      They have and will continue to kill to keep these secrets.

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      If they’re leaked and not officially released, then Trump denying their authenticity (a given) will convince more idiot centrists.

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    This is the Panama papers all over again. Another way of proving everyone in power is corrupt and we’ll do fuck all about it.

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      I think this is a little different because I believe in unreleased form this is more of a monkey on the Trump fandom’s back. Had they just been released at the start, there would have been massive coverage for a week, but MAGA would believe that Trump’s different by being open and transparent about it, and Democrats are just whining and people would forget about it much like the Papers. Whereas this way, it’s clear the Republican swamp has something it REALLY doesn’t want to reveal, to the point they’d be willing to starve the country and hold the entire government hostage over releasing them.

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        We already know Trump is a rapist who likes underage girls. That has been proven without a doubt on multiple occasions. What does hanging out with another guy who does so change, especially since that’s another thing we’ve already known for years?

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    I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.

    President of the United States

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    Trump biographer Michael Wolff told the Daily Beast that he had personally seen “about a dozen Polaroid snapshots” of Trump and Epstein, in which Trump was photographed with several topless young women on his lap. Wolff said Epstein pulled the photos out of a safe and spread them out “like a deck of cards” on his dining room table.

    I bet that is the least compromising thing in those files.