Trump's latest attack via Truth Social sparked calls for a gag order to be placed on him in his New York fraud case.
  • 30mag@lemmy.worldEnglish
    18412·
    2 年前

    The headline makes it sound like he physically assaulted her because they need to clickbait. The article makes it clear that is not what took place.

    Former President Donald Trump attacked Judge Arthur Engoron’s clerk in a now-deleted social media post while in the courtroom with her on Tuesday.

    Politico reporter Kyle Cheney wrote, “Trump, on Truth Social, is attacking Judge Engoron’s *clerk,—who is literally in the courtroom with him—while calling her ‘Chuck Schumer’s girlfriend’ and posting a link to her Instagram account. I suspect this will be an exhibit in some gag order arguments.”

    • Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
      681·
      2 年前

      This is gonna be like Capone: All these crimes and the thing that gets Trump behind bars is violating a gag order.

      Because you know he can’t abide by it.

      • spider@lemmy.nz
        311·
        2 年前

        Because you know he can’t abide by it.

        If there’s any such thing as Incitement Tourette’s, he’s got it.

      • lando55@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        2 年前

        Question since I’m genuinely lost when it comes to this - does forcing a gag order by these actions benefit Trump in any way? Does it ensure no one is able to speak about the case, or is it just limited to him?

      • Yeather@lemmy.ca
        192·
        2 年前

        Because that’s not technically illegal until the gag order, which went into effect after the post was made.

          • bhmnscmm@lemmy.world
            184·
            2 年前

            He wasn’t threatening. He was insulting. The word “attack” is misleading in this context.

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
              174·
              2 年前

              The threat wasn’t explicit, but it was certainly implicit. That’s why he posted her personal social media info. He is fully aware he has an army of followers that will take that and run with it. I don’t think that he should be able to get away with that so easily.

              • Yeather@lemmy.ca
                93·
                2 年前

                Which is why he now has a gag order. The act of posting someone’s ig isn’t illegal, but now it is with the gag order.

                • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
                  83·
                  2 年前

                  If I had thousands of followers and I posted your social media info while insulting you, wouldn’t you consider that a threat? I don’t think a gag order, which was very narrow, is much of a punishment.

                  • Yeather@lemmy.ca
                    81·
                    2 年前

                    Legally that is not a threat. Now it is a violation of the gag order, which is illegal. A lawyer could try and argue it is a threat, but that could take much longer, set precedent for future cases, and isn’t as guaranteed as a gag order.

            • paintbucketholder@lemmy.world
              2·
              2 年前

              He was also inciting his followers.

              Whether or not it rises to the level of “inciting imminent lawless action” is a different topic, but it’s not like he was merely insulting someone to their face - he was pointing tens of millions of his psycho followers at her.

      • 30mag@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        2 年前

        Do you expect that the people in the court room to be monitoring Trump’s social media accounts?

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
          4·
          2 年前

          I expect the judge to do something about it once he found out more than a narrow gag order, but apparently that’s asking too much.