Brought to you by the Department of Erasing History.
What kind of sick fuck would do this?
Damn. I guess this is why we can’t have nice things.
I guess I’ll take this opportunity mention if one cannot make a monetary donation to IA. You can always help them out by help seed some of their torrents. I’d appreciate it at least :P
I tried to seed the torrents but I never found anything that needed seeds, most users download via browser
The attack on the few remaining services that the “every person” openly benefits from is so disheartening.
Not the save structure for org, but this feeling made be remember The Consumerist in it’s heyday and when it was bought and silenced effectively… you know kids, the internet used to be a thing that actually helped and supported us without the ready acceptance of 51% “hallucinations” in information. It was actual people, in small, quiet corners, that didn’t demand subscriptions and micro transactions at every turn. It wasn’t that long ago.
Used to be, “the tragedy of the commons” didn’t quite so literally mean an attack on the common resources.
I was wondering what was going on. The Internet Archive is an incredibly important asset beyond archiving websites because it has things like the Prelinger Collection, which is the largest archive of industrial, educational and other ephemeral films, which would be only accessible via commercial sites like YouTube otherwise.
And that’s really the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the audio, video and texts available.
I hope this gets resolved soon.
Why out of all sites why internet archive
Modification of history is one of the most common tools of dictators
But they have back up to the entire thing am pretty sure any change would be detectable if a dictator is behind this then he’s extremely stupid
If the internet archive goes offline we can just view a cached version of it at the internet archi OH NO!
I thought there back online was there any update on the issue?
Someone wanted to erase history.
Well they made a bad job of it because you can’t do that with a DDOS attack. Basically it’s the same as picketing the entrance to a building. All you need is a lot of people anyone can do it at any time.
Actually entering the building and manipulating contents it holds is much more difficult, as then you actually have to engage with the building security.
A DDOS attack can never delete data.
Luckily non of the data was deleted
It might be that someone wanted to change something that was on a website before the archive could get to it too.
That’s a ridiculous amount of effort to go through to slow down a scraper for one site, especially when that site could just be… turned off.
If you own the domain you can disable the crawler on it. And remove previous scrapes.
Then it still makes no sense, as you being unable to take down the content means you also very likely can’t edit the content. I can’t think of a situation where you:
- Need content to not be scraped
- Need time to remove/edit that content
- Have access to do the above
- Don’t have access to pull the content immediately
- Have control of a large enough botnet to take down Internet Archive
- Don’t have a big enough botnet to take down the aforementioned content
Well that’s my point… It doesn’t make sense because you can just go after the fact and make the request to take it all down.
You have to be stupidly paranoid and obscenely stupid to believe that a DDOS is the correct answer if this is the case.
They’re storing proof of my fuck up which I fixed but if anyone looks it up I’m cooked
Let’s hear it.
There
Just now? Would thought theyd been hit at least once before now
I very rarely go to the internet archive, but the moment I needed to get a safe copy of very old software, shitty people decided to DDOS it. shitty humans. find better hobbies losers
I read “find better hobbies” as find better horsies
Is it a tutorial of how to be a jerk?
the internet archive is a very useful tool for countering the “official story” whenever the powers that be are lying.
If you’re able, I hope you donate to the internet archive. There’s a lot of horrible people from all over youtube that like to erase their old videos to help control their own narrative.
Link to source on the fediverse/mastodon: https://mastodon.archive.org/@internetarchive/112513905401989149
Not surprising. They archive information that powerful people would rather we forget.
Yeah man, THEY want to take down the information so they can control it, man…
…did I just find a time traveler from the 1950s??? It’s been pretty well established since the 1970s that the government CONSTANTLY lies and witholds information. Or did we ever find those WMDs in iraq? And maybe Carter was the one who freed the hostages? And maybe Reagan wasn’t selling weapons to banned countries? Whats a watergate? It sure would be crazy to get a blowjob in the white house,. Too bad nobody ever has, or ever will. Hell, even during the opening stages of covid, until Biden got elected, trump was trying to say covid was a hoax that would be gone by April. Then May. Then it didn’t matter. Then it was a hoax, until Biden was elected.
And THEY are attacking the IA to prevent it…? Otherwise what does it have to do with anything here?
Not surprising. They archive information that powerful people would rather
we forgetmonetise.FTFY
It’s both. I’m sure Puff Daddy, and R Kelly would rather we forget all the horrible things they’ve done rather than make money off of it. At the same time the NYTimes and the Atlantic would love to make money off their articles about those two people.
That literally has nothing to do with archive.com
Archive.com is not archive.org.
Fixt
I keep seeing people reference diddy did something bad, without mentioning what he did…
Half a dozen people have accused him of sexual assault.
He assaulted a singer named Cassie.
Addition to what others have stated. He is in trouble for more than just one woman. There are many claiming, but Cassie was the first (I think) that accused him and got paid to not say anything. That made his civil suit with her go away, but the feds built up a case and busted on human trafficking amongst other things. His old employee has a bunch of recordings of illegal stuff.
So we’re accusing P.Diddy and R. Kelley of DDOSing the Internet Archive, then?
Nobody said that
Then wtf does it have to do with anything related to the IA
You’re either a troll or a dipshit. They introduced an example where both interests of removing information from the public forum and having the monopoly of reporting on that information work to undermine archiving. It is important for the truth and for public trust that we support Internet Archive and other archivists/historians.
They introduced an example of whay P.Diddy has to do with anything?
Nobody is denying it I noticed.
Blocked. Saying “nobody said that” is clearly a denial.
Exactly. We’re allowed to know based on what we can afford to know.
I doubt this has to do with “powerful people”. A DDOS attack does not remove anything from the net, but only makes it temporarily hard to reach.
There are firms that specialize in suppressing information on the net. They use SEO tricks to get sites down-ranked, as well as (potentially fraudulent) copyright and GDPR request.
There must be any number of “little guys” who hate the Internet Archive. They scrape copyrighted stuff and personal data “without consent” and even disregard robots.txt. Lemmy is full of people who think that people should go to jail for that sort of thing.
Lots of grand conspiracy theories in this thread when, in the end, it’s probably some bored script kiddy
I doubt it. I’d sooner think it’s a corporation or state actor.
How does taking the website down for a few hours help those people? Especially a state actor? If it was the US government or someone like them wouldn’t they do something more permanent? Actually wipe the website?
Israel attacking Palestine again possibly
What does knocking the website offline for a few hours do for their war?
OwN tEh LiBs !!!
Who knows, how in The world would I know
Some news source released something that got redacted based on government pressure. Archive made a snapshot of the news source. Now the state actor goes after the Archive to prevent time sensitive information from spreading. They benefit from the information not being widely available immediately.
Oh…so what got released today?
How would I know? The news source retracted their statement and archive.org is down…
Aliens or illuminati, for sure.
Is it still something you can do to big sites the way people did back in the 2000’s?
Oh that’s true. I’ve seen a lot of cancel/call-out documents archived on IA, some of which were directed at children or had false accusations on them. It would be funny but not that surprising if all of this was over obscure Twitter drama.
That’s one of the problems with archiving everything. I lean in favor of the IA, but there are still issues.
This seems like it could be the work of someone who doesn’t want their webpage data being scraped and stolen by AI LLMs, that are using archive.org as some kind of method for bypassing paywalls.
Donated!
Damn, I was about to watch, The Adventures of Brisco County, Jr… 😣
Such a great show, hail to the king baby!
Hell yes, a fantastic actor who shines in everything he does. Hail to the king, baby!
I’m working on a protocol that makes information quite hard (I won’t say impossible because nothing probably is) to take down, because I believe in both information shouldn’t be censored and that everyone should be able to share what they want (yes moral stuff like a song).
I’d love meeting like-minded people to learn more about what other people do and think about stuff like that :-)
I mean there are ways to get around ddos or the “great” firewall of china for example. So why not do it?
Tried to reach out on matrix and some niche communities but they were very (very) small, so I’m still looking for some melting pot.
Any idea?
Build a minimum viable product and publish it.
You can check it out here tenfingers.org
Download & copy the binaries (setup, 10f, listener) in two different folders, run the setup, configure to 127.0.0.1 and some port, do it again (in the other folder, with another port), run the listeners and start sharing in a little microcosm. 10f has inbuilt help, for configuring and sharing.
The source code is Python, FOSS and there to check out too.
I’m so bad at publishing things 🥲
You mean like IPFS?
Thanks! Inter Planetary File System, no less! I do love the cool/very cheezy name :-)
I actually do know IPFS and how it works, (DHT).
It was IMO one of the first great tries to make data distributed in a decentralised manner. I stumbled onto it in 2016 IIRC.
What I think it is lacking is that it’s not possible to change your data without ruining your link/“uri” and that it is based on benevolent links to publish your data. Stepping stones and all that.
I know they are trying to fix the link problem and for me it seems they traded convenience for centralisation.
Would love to hang out somewhere chatting about stuff like that.
Yes, stuff like IPFS, filecoin, others… my little contribution… The future censorings, what to do about it, …
So Bittorrent?
