Some in the former president’s camp say it’s time more young adults put “some skin in the game.”

JD Vance appears to be in on requiring the kids of non-billionaires to serve in the military too:

Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio), a potential Trump running mate, said in an interview that he sees a clear need for measures to boost participation. “I like the idea of national service. And I’m not talking about in wartime,” he said, calling for more Americans to put “some skin in the game.”

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      Yes, probably. But a larger military means more money piped into the military budget, even in peacetime, if there ever is such a thing again. And a larger budget means more money funneled into the military industrial teat for the GOP and their donors to suckle off of.

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      A lot of misogynists like to throw out how ‘women don’t have to suffer the draft’ (like we’ve even had one of those in forever). So if it’s just for men, probably giving that old tired jaw teeth again?

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        We still have mandatory registration for selective service, it’s only for men, and feminist groups like the national organization of women believe it should be expended to I clude women or eliminated because it’s sexist

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      For that, and because when you’re in the military, you don’t have the same right to free expression.

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      Finland, Norway, and Sweden all have mandatory military service, and are notably democratic and socialist compared to the US. Switzerland and Austria as well.

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        They also have about 5-10 million people each. And Russia right next to them.

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          Austria, not so much; Austria is in central Europe, and doesn’t have a shared border.

          I don’t think mandatory conscription is a good idea in the US per se, but I don’t necessarily think that it’s necessarily a bad idea either.

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    Let the Trump advisors go first.

    Stop sending young men to die for profits them and their families will never see. We see through the facade.

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      Alternatively, would teaching all his red neck lackeys how to use guns more responsibly and effectively be a good thing or a bad thing?

      I guess they would be slightly less likely to shoot themselves in the nuts accidentally. But they would also be more effective in murdering more Innocent folks when they have one of their conspiracy-fueled mental health crises.

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    For national defence, right? Surely they’re not wanting to throw more bodies at “lesser” nations to “secure democracy”, right? /s

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      Different Vance. Cy Vance was the prosecutor who treated Epstein with kid gloves. J.D. Vance is the author of Hillbilly Elegy, who was briefly the darling of liberal media types for showing how the folks of Appalachia and the Rust Belt have been abandoned by those in power, before realizing he could do better for himself by gargling spraytan-orange mushroom dick and riding Trump’s coattails into right-wing demagoguery. He’s a Senator from Ohio now.

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    That’s the worst idea I’ve heard on so many levels.

    Drafting people is immoral.

    Also, it’s politically stupid because the draft is just… Extremely unpopular. Universal mandatory service will be radically less popular.

    Then, you’re filling the military with a bunch of people who don’t want to be there. Suddenly a sizable portion of the US military is composed of new recruits who don’t want to be there. If only half the people who come up for mandatory service actually get drafted, that’s still more people than are currently in the US military. This will do wonders for effectiveness and morale.

    Finally, once they get out, you have an insane amount of GI bill benefits to pay out, to say nothing of the long term VA costs that come from more than doubling the size of the military. (Potentially up to a 10x increase, assuming four year term of service and roughly 4M 18 year olds per year).
    Or you can change the law to deny GI bill benefits to draftees, which is definitely going to be popular with the people whose life you’re stealing.

    I suppose “draft everyone” is technically a way to give everyone subsidized college education and universal healthcare, but I think there’s better ways.

    Just the dumbest possible people.

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      As if they would actually pay out on the GI bill. I’ve known more than a few that gets screwed over over stupid technicalities or paperwork. The fact is the US government does not give a shit about vets and that’s a sad thing

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      Then, you’re filling the military with a bunch of people who don’t want to be there. Suddenly a sizable portion of the US military is composed of new recruits who don’t want to be there. If only half the people who come up for mandatory service actually get drafted, that’s still more people than are currently in the US military. This will do *wonders* for effectiveness and morale.

      A gift for Papa Putin, you say?

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      Just in case anyone doesn’t know: the Kain supreme court case about conscription basically had the decision of “But Mom! All the other countries do it!”

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      It would be far from “slavery” in the typical sense.

      If this happened, those people would get food, housing, healthcare and job training while getting paid for it.

      Though I’m definitely not in favor of conscription because how can you call yourself free if you’re required to do involuntary military work for the government.

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          Yeah, the comment just made 0 sense; Slaves got free food, lodging and Healthcare all the way back to biblical times. They also got a free dating service so the master could keep them forever.

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            I’ll add to that, they also got free “education” to learn skills needed for their “job” and how to adress their “superiors”.