Thomas Matthew Crooks, the suspectin Saturday’s shooting, was registered as a Republican voter, according to Pennsylvania records.
Already the republicans are dismissing his voter registration as meaningless. Here comes the “mental illness” angle.
Edit: apparently it’s not uncommon to register with the party you oppose in PA. This is going to be a fun ride.
Standard procedure for antifa supersoldiers
What do you mean
They made a conspiracy joke.
they had me until the supersoldiers part heheh
Republican voter and somehow this will be blamed on everyone else.
“Missed to the left, therefore a leftie”
~ Maga probably
Used to vote for Republicans and then donated for Democrats
He was 20. He could have voted only in a single election. Someone said he donated to democrats 3 years ago. This math is confusing the fucking out of me.
Unfortunately I think what we’re going to learn is that he’s one of those people that register Republican to vote in their primaries to choose the weakest candidate giving Democrats a better chance.
Either way I unfortunately think this is going to give Trump yet another boost… God knows that’s what we needed…
That’s possible. Because we damn sure aren’t going to learn that people are more complicated than a simple black & white label.
If this comes across as argumentative, I don’t mean it that way. It’s just pure cynicism.
I read a snippit that in PA, it’s not uncommon to register for the other party. More than likely, he really was a dem/non repub.
He’s pro-gun and we can point out the dangers of that alone.
20 year olds don’t have wealth to reasonably donate to an election.
17 year olds, supposedly. (I can’t verify the three years ago, so grain of salt.)
This doesn’t really make sense and we might just have to wait for actual details from the investigation.
Some people are saying $10, which is a lot more to a kid than to an adult. But kids can afford $10.
A person with his name donated $15 on the day Biden was inaugurated, when he was 17.
Fox News: “Biden campaign received illegal campaign donation from shooter.”
With just the same first and last name, where as the Republican party registration had other corroborating data, such as middle initial, address, and date of birth.
So the donation is nowhere near as solid as the Republican party registration.
Apprently that was a differnet person in Philly that shares his first and last name.
The donation? Source on that? Not doubting you
Edit: I am now doubting you. Found the FEC filing and it lists a Bethel Park, PA zip code.
Can you share that source?
NYTimes, so there’s a paywall. It links to the FEC (wouldn’t load on mobile for me but the FEC page did fully load on my desktop).
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/14/us/politics/trump-gunman-thomas-crooks.html
Edit: actually, the article has been updated since I read it. It no longer links to the FEC, just a NYT screenshot:
https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/fe91e6ba36695009/ac182c3a-full.pdf
Though it says Pitt, the zip is a Bethel Park zip
A voter-registration record showed Mr. Crooks’s Republican registration, though federal campaign-finance records show he donated $15 to the Progressive Turnout Project, a liberal voter turnout group, through the Democratic donation platform ActBlue in January 2021.
The street address is registered to his father.
He lives there too. Without doxing anyone or putting their info on here, you can read in the news that they all live together (dad, mom, son. Sister moved out a couple years ago)
You’re trash.
Where as the Republican party registration has other corroborating information listed, the donation doesn’t have anything other than the same first and last name. So it’s not confirmed to be the same guy yet.
Name, job, and zip code. Find me another guy living in Bethel Park with the same name who was unemployed in 2021 (edit: Bethel Park has 4 zip codes, so not even all of Bethel Park. People really think there’s another guy with such a unique name in town? None of his relatives share the same name, so an unrelated guy?)
Lots of noise right now. Dont have a source past a random comment, so doubt is warranted.
Pretty much expected. His precise reasons are what have me curious though
Follow the money. Who paid him to do the shooting is what we should be asking.
Maybe one of his cultists actually realized he’s been lying to them for the past 8 years. It’s a far fall from where MAGA is back down to reality.
Maybe the creation of a martyr and just accelerationism. Or the shooter was just a patsy
Yeah, hating Trumpism is certainly the expected angle, but a Boogaloo type looking to start a civil war couldn’t ask for a better target. Even if he actually was for all the Trump stuff he might think a civil war is necessary and Trump winning the election would just continue the muddled mess where liberals still get to make some decisions.
Conservatives when a poc is convicted of rape:”if that was my daughter I’d happily be in JAIL now!”
Conservatives when their violent , rapist prez gets shot: “this is the democrats fault since they call him a fascist, let’s pull back the violent rhetoric peeps”
Only that the “let’s” is referring to only Democrats. Republican/alt-right people will continue to use violent rhetoric.
https://x.com/ThePatriotOasis/status/1812348501868556704 He also said “I hate republicans. I hate Trump”
The heck does “they got the wrong guy” mean? Is this someone else? Was this recorded after the shooting?
Someone said that wasn’t him? It sure looks like him though. Couldn’t see some random dude looking like him and posting that.
Grand. So we’ll find out what his affiliations are.
That’s supposedly a troll who resembles the shooter. Let’s vet sources a little more before just blindly posting things.
Nobody uses Twitter anymore retard
Of course they are are, and the MAGA cult will buy it saying it was a deep state conspiracy to discredit them or some bullshit like that.
the MAGA cult will buy it saying it was a deep state conspiracy to discredit them
Isn’t it funny how every single time a psycho with a long history of supporting republicans turns out to just be a deep state crisis actor paid by Soros to discredit them?
How is voter registration even a thing. wtf
Its for the parties themselves.
But to answer your question, theres intentionally no list of citizens. The only way to verify that they can vote is registration, unless you want a passport or birth cert or whatever
You can register as Unaffiliated fwiw, you don’t have to choose Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, or Independant. It’s mainly a choice of which primary to vote in anyway.
Any time you apply for a driver’s license or whatever, you are asked if you want to register with a party. That is the party that you will vote for in the primary elections. Some (many?) states offer same day registration which, in my opinion, is how it should be. It puts you in a database in case voter fraud ACTUALLY happens (insanely rare) where they can check to make sure Ur Quell only voted once and investigate what happened if they see multiple votes.
As for the primaries: This is how the US handles our version of Ranked Choice and… I kind of prefer it (with some major caveats). The general idea is that all right wing politicians should run for the republican seat and all sane people for the Democrat seat. You campaign at the tail end of the previous year and the party members vote on you in the spring. There is definitely some sketchiness with super delegates (although, that is not overly dissimilar from how many parliament systems pick a Prime Minister), but this creates a unified front come November.
Yes, two party systems are bad, but that is what things tend to converge on when push comes to shove. Just look at France where the Left more or less unified to stand a chance against fascism.
Like almost every aspect of the US government: it is a fundamentally good system that needs to be iterated on and better taught to the populace. It is just that republicans know that education hurts them and want to take advantage of all the loopholes that Tommy Jefferson obviously intentionally wrote while he was raping his plantation full of slaves.
Thanks for the lengthy reply :)
For primaries, parties may close their primaries to only registered members of the party to vote in
Can’t have homeless people or people with limited means actually voting. A republican would never win again.
republicans need barriers for people of color, poor people and young people traditionally to avoid full participation in democracy. In this modern time, some states actually still require you to print paper applications and mail them to your Secretary of State’s office at the post office with a physical stamp to register to vote… The list of individual barriers to completion within those seemingly small actions can not be overstated, especially to young people who on average don’t own home printers and may have literally never bought a stamp or mailed a physical letter.
He definitely could be Republican and I would not dismiss it at all. However, in the state of Pennsylvania it’s common to register for the party primaries of the opposing party whose candidate is someone you’re not in favor of and vote for someone else. It should be clear this does not mean he’s not a Republican or imply that he might be a Democrat. It’s only to add some context.
Source: https://ballotpedia.org/Primary_elections_in_Pennsylvania
I wouldn’t say it’s common, that’s misleading. some people do it, probably, but I’ve lived in PA for 2 decades and have never met anyone who has claimed to do so nor have I seen any actual statistics on the matter
As much as I’ve heard this parroted in multiple places since yesterday, I think this is just a talking point to edge towards it. In another couple of days it wont be maybe. It’s directed to make it a left vs right, while, what’s so outrageous about him being Republican and not liking Trump? It’s not like there hasn’t been a huge divide in the Republican party, so much so that we have the “alt right”
My older sister has been doing it since the 80s. I don’t think there’s very many of them because assholes keep winning the Republican primaries
That’s fair, you’re right as I haven’t seen statistics either. While I don’t do it myself, I’ve seen many speak about doing this over the years though I’ve only lived in PA for a little over a decade.
Edit: autocorrect
He also has donated to Democratic cause three years ago. Might not mean anything but we’ll see if they better figure out this guy.
… it would been a whole lot easier if he hadn’t been shot dead.
Dunno how they would’ve done that, wasn’t he shot from another roof by a sniper while he was still posing an active threat? That’s the image I got from some articles
If law enforcement sees a guy on a rooftop with a gun threatening a crowd of people, though, that’s an acceptable situation for “shoot first, ask questions later”. That shot that killed the guy probably saved other lives.
Non-lethal shots are a possibility.
They also allow people to keep shooting.
That is some Hollywood shit, in real life you shoot until the threat is neutralized, it could have been another las vegas
They usually don’t. See: Europe.
Ok, well you feel free to try and wound someone in that situation if you’re ever in it, hopefully no one else dies because of it.
Yes, one of the rules of gun safety is that you don’t point your gun at anything you don’t intend to kill.
No one in the history of actual combat shooting is taught to take non lethal shots. Ever.
There was an era where some cops were trained to shoot at limbs but even cops knew to ignore that shit.
It’s the normal procedure here in Finland to try to take someone down with shooting in the legs or somewhere else that they might survive from. Not the case if they start shooting of course, it’s more for situation where they’re wielding a knife and coming for the cop or someone else
What do you mean with combat shooting? Because here in Finland police is trained to (and required by law) to try to minimize the damage and if possible, to stop someone without killing them, usually by shooting at the legs etc. But that’s more for knife fielding attacker and other situation where such shots are more possible and not when the cops or others are being shot at
I mean US military and police training.
Idk what your talking about. You shoot the gun out of the hand. Then you shoot the hat off for intimidation and the somewhere nearby you shoot the rope of someone getting hanged to free them to kinda balance things out. This is all common sense.
I cannot argue with your rootin’ tootin’ shootin’ logic.
Combat shooting? It’s not a warzone. Come to Europe, mate.
If you’re standing 20 feet in front of the guy, yes. If your only shot is across a field from one rooftop to another, you have much less control over where the bullet hits.
At those distances (200-300 meters going by the map i saw) with professional shooters they can put multiple rounds inside of a spot the size of a dime. That isn’t the point though, you shoot to kill in those situations. Non lethal shots are hollywood shit.
Or what happens in places outside of the US.
Is that what happened?
Non-lethal shots are a fantasy.
You have plenty of blood vessels in your limbs and it is very easy to bleed out via the femoral artery or whatever else. This is literally why tourniquets exist
Assuming it is an actual threat and not a black kid with a toy train: Shoot to kill and then, when it is safe, have EMTs try to keep them alive.
Not in the real world they’re not.
They’re less lethal, not non lethal, and they’re frequently used as an excuse to escalate violence needlessly. I’m very critical of the use of their use of force and would generally prefer police to be unarmed, but this is not a situation where I have any complaints. That threat needed to be neutralized as quickly and effectively as possible. Overwhelming force was the best way to do that.
My biggest hope now is that he legally purchased the gun with no background check from a maga at a gun show.
You really think that any of the cultists are going to care about what actually happened?
Their story will be that he’s a transwoman high on legal weed who listened to woke podcasts about Gaza.
You really think that any of the cultists are going to care about what actually happened?
No, but it might be enough to convince independents not to feel sympathy for him.
Up until 2016 I could pretend to myself that, when the chips were down, most Americans could tell chicken salad from chicken shit.
Too many people assumed Clinton would win.
Ergo, she didn’t. Even so, never should have been close in the states that carried it over the line.
Anyone independent at this point is a moron.
Facts won’t matter. Facebook posts about deep state false flag operations will.
Anyone independent at this point is a moron.
This doesn’t change the fact that Biden still needs those votes in order to be president.
When it was discovered Rittenhouse beat up a little girl, the story the Right made up was that the “Girl was a transgender who was spying on his sister in the bathroom!” when there’s no evidence for that claim.
I didn’t know Rittenhouse had attacked a child; I’m not in the least surprised.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/kyle-rittenhouse-video-kenosha-shooter-punch-girl-a9702206.html - Video used to be on Youtube
Like I said, I’m not at all amazed.
Holy shit AND tried to assassinate a fascist? Why do they keep making up such fucking cool people
A brave and true republican boy, who got corrupted away from his family by the antifa deep state complex, he would have been such a great person, if only his parents had homeschooled him without interference from the communist atheists, and were allowed to hit him more as a child 😢
Then he got the covid vaxx and the 5g nano microchips got implanted in his brain and made him a deep state sleeper agent.
I should have saved it but I didn’t. Someone else posted an actual MAGoo fiction about how a good kid goes to college and instantly gets a hot Black girlfriend who corrupts him with sex and Antifa ideology…
a hot Black girlfriend who corrupts him with sex
You son of a bitch! I’m in.
I think I saw a documentary about that on Elon’s new video site, Xvideos.com.
(/s, NSFW)
Why is it asking for my driver’s license?
You live in a red state that requires a government ID to watch porn online.
Are ya in an anti-porn state right now by any chance?
I love educational videos.
hot black girlfriend who corrupts him
Go on…
They met in a coffee shop and she bought him a drink spiked with an afrodisiac (yes correct spelling). Then while he couldn’t think straight, she tricked him and brought him home where she literally f’d his brains out. During this time she was whispering deep state woke ideology in his ear. After cumming back to earth, he was fully corrupted and became a deep state sleeper agent.
Worth it.
Where do I sign up?
I need to read this. What was the title?
Like I said, I wish I remembered. I vaguely recall the GF’s name was Shondra, but that’s iffy.
I’m usre you could come up with a better version if you put your mind to it.
Was it on AO3?
Someone mentioned the story on Lemme. They gave a description.
It’s those damn FEMA reeducation camps
The cultists are gonna cultist no matter what. Truth still matters even in a political and media landscape that looks to be ‘post-truth’. Don’t get me wrong, I wish it mattered a whole lot more still.
Trump’s already not pro-gun. He passed some of the most significant “anti” gun legislation during his term. Thing is, he’s a pathological liar, so it doesn’t matter what comes out of his mouth. He’ll stay on the “pro-gun” rhetoric, and when he’s elected will enact more anti-gun legislation, especially now that he’s been on the receiving end.
And it won’t matter, because MAGA’s gonna MAGA. He’ll lose maybe a few truly 2A-focused people, but it won’t matter because after 2024 there will be no more free elections in the US.
Trump’s already not pro-gun.
Point of order: Trump’s not anything except Pro-Trump. THAT’S IT. That is the sum total of his actual identifiable personal beliefs.
He’s a demented narcissist and a sociopath. He’s a rapist, a fraud, a money launderer for human traffickers, he’s a traitor, a colluder, and a piece of shit.
But he is absolutely NOT “not pro-gun”. He does not give a single solitary shit-in-a-vacuum. This has been proven. It Is Known.
Once he has secured power the gun confiscations will begin. Classic power grab move.
Yeah that’s not going to happen.
That was Feb 28, 2018. March 2nd, 2018, Trump met at the white house with the NRA, where
President Trump and Vice President Mike Pence have reassured gun owners that they remain committed to “strong due process” and they “don’t want gun control.”
He’s a chattering, demented, adderall-swilling dipshit who will not shut the fuck up and is literally unable to not lie every few sentences. It meant nothing, and even if they did try anything, that would be the fastest way to destroy the MAGA base.
Not. Happening.
Close, got it from his dad.
He was a responsible gun owner. They’re all responsible gun owners.
Until they’re not.
“False flag” - Fox and co-conspirators
Wait, are they really saying that? Do they know what that implies?
Trump is literally a paid actor, how do we know he was actually shot and not just pretending for attention? /s
How do we know he actually got shot?
Jfc fuck off
The 20-year old suspect involved in yesterday’s shooting at Donald Trump’s rally was reportedly bullied relentlessly, the local Pennsylvania outlet KDKA reports.
That really sucks.
PA has a closed primary. In closed primaries, people tend to switch their registration in order to effect the primary they see as most impactful. It is not unlikely that the shooter registered as republican to vote against Trump in the primary.
So, can we get celebrate this patriot like they celebrate Kyle bitchenhouse?
Atleast this one had the balls to go after someone more secure than a bunch of random protesters.
True but didn’t him shooting two innocents after Trump make this a bad thing?
I wasn’t aware any journalists of event crew were harmed.
Collateral is an inevitable side effect of said actions within the hands of a non professional.
I feel… Mixed, on that.
That is correct response for folks who arent bloodthirsted or otherwise accepting of the concept of collateral damage. Which puts ya peg over where I am, but I also think that the bombing campaign on Japan during ww2 was too lenient, that includes the nukes.
Yeah, let’s not elevate idiots to a pedestal - and I’m not calling him an idiot (just Rittenhouse), we don’t know squat about him yet.
Considering Trump can now campaign on being an assassination survivor and win with that? Lol no
Yes you’re right but that wasn’t my point.
Thank god this is getting muddled.
I’ll take a win where I can. The election is too close for comfort now (or even leaning towards a Trump victory right now). We have time to change that, but we need to recognize the threat is growing right now.
Biden’s next presser:
Fuck Donald Trump, fuck Don Jr., fuck Trump’s staff, his business company and as a motherfucking candidate!
And if you want to be down with MAGA Trump, then fuck you too! Barron XL: fuck you too! All you motherfuckers, fuck you too!
What about Eric?
Who???
