#quietpartoutloud
Blood libel, folks.
That’s not blood libel. Blood libel is the obviously false claim that Jews eat christian babies, often in the form of Passover matzoh. It has modern descendants like claims that “they” are turning your kids trans and if you get deeper you see those quotation marks turn into echo marks.
This is eugenics. It’s also Nazi ass bullshit, but it’s one Americans have far more blood on our hands with. A hundred years ago we in the United States were openly engaging in forced sterilization of minorities and disabled people and in doing so inspiring the German right. We still haven’t tamped out eugenic sterilization here, even when it was widely agreed to be the horrendous crime against bodily autonomy that it is. This is fucking terrifying as far as rhetoric goes
Well yeah of course he’s going to bring out the eugenics, he surrounds himself with his fellow Nazis.
“Many of them murdered far more than one person,” Trump declared. “A murderer, I believe this, it’s in their genes. And we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now.”
And he will still be normalized as a presidential candidate by this evenings news and by the country on election day.
I guess it’s that time of day to come to grips that the USA is ok with this.
The US has always been okay with this. They don’t teach this in school. But they should. The United States was one of the biggest inspirations to the Nazis. From the Jim crow south beating, jailing, and suppressing their unternensch. To the fabulously wealthy capitalists practicing eugenics on their untermensch. Literally, the only slight new take the Nazis had. Was the fantasy ayrian precursors.
Hell even lemmy’s perpetual good boys. Well if you’re talking too ML or tankies. Had a very cozy working relationship with Hitler. Invading Poland. Even when they broke it off. Stalin went on to massacre thousands of ethnically polish citizens within Soviet borders.
None of these groups ever really had any repercussions from this. One of the big reasons the Nazis failed was Japan’s attack on Pearl harbor. Which finally tipped things from the American fascists quiet support of Hitler with public calls for isolationism. Turning away boats of Jewish refugees. Combined with the discovery of the death camps. Without those things, the US would have stayed out while continuing to support Hitler. But IBM never faced repercussions for helping Hitler catalog and track Jews on the way to slaughter. DuPont was never held responsible for making and supplying the gas to Hitler to slaughter the Jews. Our fascists simply bid their time. Russia going from authoritarian to fascist authoritarian government today. With our fascist capitalists slowly dismantling our democracy over the last 100 years. Only some fascists lost WWII.
Exactly, thank you for the great response.
I guess it’s that time of day to come to grips that the USA is ok with this.
A relatively small subset of people are okay with this as long as it continues to keep them in power and make them rich, another small subset of people are okay with this as long as it continues to be targeted exclusively at people they don’t like, and a relatively large subset of people are victims of propaganda and media saturation. Let’s put the blame where it belongs.
I don’t know if it’s a relatively small subset when there’s a fair chance he might be elected if people don’t go vote, or vote for a third party candidate.
That would be the large subset who are victims of propaganda. I refuse to believe that such a large percentage of the country would actually be as awful as they seem if it wasn’t for the propaganda machine doing its thing.
You’d be surprised how our system turns people into sociopaths. It enables them and even rewards them.
Just look at the richest people in our society and how most of them have sociopathic tendencies. They lack empathy.
Trump is currently controlling the largest cult outside of religion in the US. His core is going to take a long time to deprogram enough to return to society when he finally stops getting a platform to mobilize them all. Some of them were awful people before Trump, but so many everyday people got pulled into the cult through Fox or Facebook or Twitter and their conditioning keeps them loyal.
I think contrary to at least some cult leaders, Trump has nothing but absolute disgust for his followers, and uses them solely to get him power and to grift so he can afford to keep the machine of hate going.
Lol, they buy into the propaganda because it aligns with their beliefs. They aren’t victims if blatant racist shit like this.
Victims of the taxes too high propaganda, sure. But not this.
… unless you’re saying it’s in their genes to be racist, then something convinced them that racism is correct. And that thing is a mixture of parents’ teaching and propaganda. And the parents got it from propaganda and their parents, etc.
It is how they were raised and their life experiences that influence their worldview. But as adults, they should have learned better.
Willful ignorance is their own fault.
It’s like you two are the argument that I have going on on my own head about this topic. Snooggums is my pessimistic side.
Most of the people who vote for him will never be informed about the most appalling and repulsive things he says, because all their news comes filtered through media streams that are designed to prop up the conservative candidate, no matter who, and to discredit the facts that makes that candidate look bad.
But even if everyone who voted for him knew he said these things, they would still be the minority of Americans, because he lost the popular vote in 2016.
I’m not surprised. That’s how one of my best friends became an Andrew Tate and conservative supporter. YouTube algorithms got to him with these videos of cherry picked clips with comments from other supporters and his cohort of fraudulent assholes.
You can talk about the reasons voters might be tricked, incentivized, propagandized, etc. into voting for Trump but at the end of the day they are making the decision to support this kind of thing of their own free will. Placing the blame somewhere else is easy. The hard part is coming to terms with the fact that the fundamental problem is not a shady group of billionaires gaming the system but rather a population too dumb and lazy to see those actions for what they are. That problem isn’t going away even if we get rid of all billionaires and enforce stricter truthfulness in broadcasting laws.
I’m not denying it would get easier to manage if did those things but we have to recognize that the people you’re talking about are willing participants in this and not just victims being taken advantage of.
You’re not wrong. I’m sure some of the Germans who voted for Hitler and perpetrated horrors for the Nazi regime were misled and propagandized.
But they were still Nazis and still committed a genocide.
We’re going to have to do the same work Germany did with de-Nazification.
Where’s Edward R. Murrow when you need him?
The majority of us most certainly are NOT; the sane ones are just underrepresented in our archaic voting system.
come to grips that the USA is ok with this.
“This” is what happens when a society has no hope. A brutal side effect of economic policy and fleecing of the population over the past 30 years. People turn to religion and strong men for succour. They are swayed by bullshit and manipulated to serve the interests of the powerful.
FYI, I’m not ok with this. Tho’ I’m glad he’s saying the ‘quiet part out loud’, so that there can be no question on the importance of voting him and the rest of the GOP down in this election.
I would have agreed with you in 2016 but if the last 8 years has shown me anything it’s that Trump is normalizing the worst of people. He keeps saying the quiet part out loud till the right is screaming it
Shameful.
The Overton Window is a thing.
I guess it’s that time of day to come to grips that the USA is ok with this.
Absolutely fucking not!
It is literally a matter of life and death that we not only stay mad about this, but get a Hell of a lot madder than we already are!
NYT tomorrow: “Harris under fire for [placeholder] after controversial Trump radio interview”
If they want to look for these “bad genes”, all the Republicans have to do is look in a mirror.
In case anyone isn’t getting it he’s calling for racial cleansing.
Oh, I think he’s just saying it plainly now.
I think it’s pretty plain to you and I, but I doubt the folks at your local GOP meeting are going to hear it that way.
I think using the actual words could help.
Harris campaign needs to put this on blast. If the Latin voter segment is sliding as they say, then this should be a wakeup call.
Is history repeating itself this blatantly? And the people who are voting for him still believe they are morally correct.
I know right, I was hopping I would at least be old before history repeated itself.
Bents knees
Wait a minute…
The Greatest Generation is shaking their heads in sadness. Time to break out the unfortunately timeless short,
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Your link be broken
I changed it to the National Archive version, a better choice.
Nazis believed they were morally correct too. When a person believes firmly in their own moral correctness, it’s a red flag.
Damn, it sounds like he’s implying that we need to get rid of evangelical Christians - the largest crime committing block in America.
evangelical Christians - the largest crime committing block in America
Wow, really? Do you have a link?
This is the closest thing to a study on religion I’m prison I’ve ever found and the prisoner statistics are obscured by whether chaplains considered them extremist - the clearest piece of data is that 44% of chaplains (a plurality of them) are evangelicals. It’s a really shaky statistic though so I wouldn’t draw on it outside of dunking on idiocy from the GOP
Study: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2012/03/22/prison-chaplains-exec/
I’m assuming they mean that Christians make up a huge percentage of the US, so therefore they probably make up a large percentage of criminals. I’d be interested if evangelical Christians now make up the majority of Christians.
He says this kind of crap literally every day. Didn’t he say Harris voters would be in danger like, literally yesterday? It’s not “stunning” anyone anymore, we’re just supposed to act like people in power actually care that he’s a xenophobic, narcissistic fascist. Headlines like this are supposed to comfort us into believing that those with power are actually stunned or upset by what he said. Every day? For eight+ years? Get the fuck out of here.
Won’t someone please think of our leaders’ pearls.
It’s better to have it reported than for us all to be normalized to a potential president wholeheartedly adopting fascist language.
It’d be better if a pearl clutcher passed a law or something, but with half of them frothing at the chance to turn on their own constituents…
Reporting on it just fans the flames, generates the drama he needs to stay at the forefront of the news cycle. Can Harris generate that kind of chatter with sensible talk about realistic proposals? This dispirits Dem voters, while emboldening his base who laugh behind their hand at Trump’s boorish political incorrectness. Jester’s Privilege. He has never suffered any consequences for anything he’s said.
King of the Elitists
"You have seen people in this courtroom, you have seen them at this trial, you have met them in your life, have every reason to respect them, to love them, to appreciate them, except that maybe one of their ancestors going back and back and back to where perhaps they had ten thousand ancestors, and one of them was black or partly black, and he has to be a hewer of wood and drawer of water and all of his generation, to the end of time to be cursed that way by those who think their blood is pure.
Of course, the marvel of it is that there is not any such thing as pure blood.
How far can you go back in yours, how far can I go back in mine? I knew who my father was and who my mother was, and I know who all four of my grandparents were, but when I get back of that I am lost in obscurity and night. I know they came from New England. I hate to admit it, but they did,–pure Nordic.
MR. TOMS: New England Nordic?
MR. DARROW: New England Nordic. Isn’t it awful? I know it. I had to bear it and get along with it the best I could for all these years. For all I know they may have been related to Jonathan Edwards. From there they go back to England, but what of it? Gentlemen, I don’t know where they came from back of that or that far, and I know that back of me and back of you is an infinite ancestry stretching away back at least five hundred thousand years, and we are made up of everything on the face of the earth, of all kinds and colors and degrees of civilization, and out of that come we.
Who are we, any of us, to be boastful above our fellows?"
Clarence Darrow, Esq., in the successful closing argument in defense of Ossian Sweet
I’m a Republican whos NOT a Nazi but he’s RIGHT!
Is this the new “I’m not a racist, but…”?
“I’m not SUPER into Eugenics or anything, BUUUUUUT…”
Dumbest argument ever.
Poe’s law strikes again.
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Weird for a man such as Trump to equate crime with bad genes. How many felonies does he have again? It’d be interesting to see how this guy would have turned out if he was born poor
How many felonies does he have again?
DrMoCrAt HoAx
Magoos:
Stupid gif isn’t playing and my lunch is ending, just imagine her nodding repeatedly in agreement lol :(
Well, his dad was a nazi too, so maybe he thinks it’s his genes that made him this way.
Oh, I know. He must be talking about the bad genes of Elon Musk and the family history of labor abuse under apartheid and incest.
I don’t fucking get the right.
“Evolution is evil it says we’re monkeys!”
“Genetics means we can have better blood lines!”
They don’t actually understand any of those things. They just think white skin, blue eyes and blond hair equals Uber mensch and thus the divine right to rule the world. And just like the Nazis, the fact that most of them don’t actually conform to the qualifications they dream up is beyond them. That’s why you see those pictures of Trump as a muscular Jesus, they are very detached from reality.
They worship Jesus as their idol but Jesus had literally none of those traits
Right, but that’s the crazy part.
In their mind I’m genetically superior, but only because of my appearance. Then if I come out and say “but I’m not genetically superior” they get pissed off because yes I am and I’m a traitor.
How can they possibly be comfortable with stating one thing both is and is not good?
It’s funnier cause they claim blue eyes are superior when in most of the world it isn’t, especially when the world is heating up more and more and we have less ice and snow.
What do blue eyes have to do with less ice and snow?
It’s a thing that’s being studied but apparently it’s also true for reindeer which turn their eyes blue during the winter to help them see better in low light conditions and brown in the summer when there’s better lighting.
Its basically also why people closer to the equator have darker skin.
- Too much sun = skin cancer
- Too little sun = vitamin D deficiency
- Too little melatonin = skin cancer prone skin
- Too much melatonin = needs vitamin D supplements in the Arctic winter.
Melanin. Melatonin is the chemical that makes you sleepy
I can’t tan. It’s the worst. I just burn.
Yep and by that same logic the ubermensh are actually gonna be the ‘inferior’ (not that I believe any of that) species with the climate change that same people love to deny.
Ha, man, I thought I was crazy, I had no idea. My ancestry was largely from northern Europe - but my Dad did a lot of astronomy and typically had me find things for him when we were out in the field. He always said “because you see things better than me” which I thought was absolute horseshit because I’m near sighted and he’s farsighted.
Maybe I did because my blue eyes actually helped a bit.
Definitely a possibility. All life on earth is actually insane in how it works and why. Even the simple looking things like the color of our eyes.
Their goal is not to be logically consistent. Their goal is to make you subservient.
Both statements are based on complete and total misunderstanding of evolutionary biology.
It’s very funny that eugenicists always look inbred and disgusting
Like the well-bred Hapsburgs!
You will respect the girth of their chins.
The great irony of eugenics is that the only real measure of the long-term health of a population is its genetic diversity, which leads to the exact opposite conclusion of eugenics. If you want your “race” to survive and thrive, you should interbreed with other races, not try to cull and “purify” your own. There’s no such thing as good or bad genes, because that depends on the environment which is constantly changing. Eugenics is just wrong in every possible sense of that word.
Something I’ve noticed more and more is how prevalent killing, murder and death is in Hollywood produced media. The vast majority of popular movies and series either start, involve or end with somebody being killed. And its almost laughable how high the disregard of human life is portrayed to the masses. Look at any other motion picture productions, say Korean, Indian, French, British, etc., even a single person dying in a story is seen as a very huge deal. Same thing goes for violence in general. Even if the character decides to take the high ground and not kill their nemesis, they still die in the end by other means.
I think this image of death has led a lot of Americans to adapt the attitude of “It’s fine, as long it doesn’t happen to ME.”, which in return can be capitalized on by telling them “It’s fine we’re not talking about YOU but about a THEM.”. They’ve seen people die on a screen so many times that if it happens for real and is shown on the news, it is regarded as entertainment rather than a horrific tragedy.
Seriously, in classical storytelling often times the whole story revolves around a single death. But in Hollywood the scenes often involve something along the lines of [good guy takes out a bunch of bad guys]. This could also be why US gun culture has gone absolutely insane over the last 30 years. They all want to be the cool action hero taking out the bad guys, but forget that their hero is a sociopathic murderer by all standards.
Have we looped back around to blaming media for violence again? This was disproven in the 70s with rock, the 80s with dungeons and dragons, the 90s with metal, and the 2000s with anything anti war or America. Can we stop trudging up this argument? Please?
I’m not blaming media for violence. I’m blaming it for the desensitization towards violence. There’s a big difference. Its like the difference between somebody saying “I’ve seen somebody die before.” and “I’ve killed somebody before.”.
Yeah, desensitizing people to violence is the original argument. It’s always “if they’re willing to shoot people in video games, why not real life!?” Crap.
It’s been disproven so often that my shitty little uni assigned that research to first year psych students. It’s not a thing. Media is a reflection of society, not society itself. Violent societies like violent media. Violent media doesn’t create violent societies. Propaganda based media can, but no one’s committing murders cause they saw Knives Out or played COD 23
So what about the US Army being heavily invested in Hollywood for the benefit of their image and increase of recruitment numbers. Is that not a direct link between media and violence? Or is all that military money spend in vain?
