MAGA’s gonna party like it’s 2020!

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      I’ve always thought this shit was pretty funny. Like, oh, we’re going to have spaghettio’s again? I guess it’s fucking Wednesday.

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      Have slowly cultivated my family’s love of potatoes, carrots, and pasta for just such occasions

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      When there is a shortage of choice, with the same amount of people buying from a smaller supply, do you expect prices to stay the same?

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      It’s kind of a sad superpower, isn’t it? Especially when you see people who have always been coddled living in luxury, start complaining.

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        I grew up poor as hell. I broke the cycle in my family just in time to have to deal with this shit. My garden is looking like it’s going to do well this year and if meat starts getting scarce I can go hunting from time to time or get some yard birds from the friends I get my eggs from, but god damn (or maybe I’ll go vegetarian, wouldn’t be the first time), I just wanted a little more time not having to live hand to mouth.

        But I’ll make it as long as flour doesn’t get to be the price of beef. And I’ll complain the whole fucking time.

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      Grateful at this moment for my wife who grew up food insecure who stocked up several months of food. That will run out though eventually.

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        Faster than you think. I’ve lived off zero a few long stretches, it get really irritating when you realize you’re out of fat to lose.

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          AI Answer to how many you’d need

          To sustainably feed yourself with rabbits, you’d likely need a small breeding colony of rabbits. A few does (female rabbits) and a buck (male rabbit) could produce enough meat for one person. A guideline is one doe and a buck can produce about 2-3 dozen meat rabbits per year, says Polyculture Farming. More Details:

          Breeding:

          A small breeding colony of rabbits, like 2 does and a buck, could potentially produce 40-50 rabbits per year, enough for a small family, according to Mother Earth News.

          Meat Yield:

          A rabbit can yield a significant amount of meat. One rabbit can easily feed a family of four, and they are generally sold whole, weighing just under three pounds, says Countryside Magazine and FoodPrint.

          Sustainability:

          Rabbits can be a sustainable meat source due to their relatively efficient conversion of feed to meat compared to other livestock. Individual Needs:

          The number of rabbits needed would depend on your individual meat consumption and preferences.

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    As someone who doesn’t live in the US, I’m looking forward to watching this unfold.

    It’s going to hurt Trump. I’m sorry a lot of Dem voters will be collateral damage but honestly, an economic shit storm of biblical magnitude is pretty much the only thing that can save you IMO.

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      …as someone who opposed the fascist-in-chief by civil means and will be wholly caught up in the economic maelstrom, i’m looking forward to watching this unfold, too: it’s the only thing which might save us from full-blown armed conflict and martial law…

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      Lmao hurt Trump? His cultists will be eating rat soup to survive and insist that the economy is great and America is on its way to being Great Again™, and that rat soup is just a necessary sacrifice on that path.

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        The cultists, yes… but they’re not the ones keeping him on his throne. If enough rich people lose enough money he will be impeached.

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          Rich people will make money if the stocks go up or down because they’ll know in advance what’s coming.

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            There’s more at stake than stocks going up or down by a few percent.

            People with large business empires don’t want a catastrophic recession.

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        I hate that you are right about that.

        The cultists at jonestown were perfectly fine to die. The magas will die for him at well without complaint.

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      As an American I agree, though I have to point out something those of us living this shit nightmare know…

      This won’t hurt him. At all. His supporters by and large are what you’d expect from full on Stockholm syndrome victims.

      They excuse, Sanewash, and pretend it’s part of some plan to make them great.

      His supporters? They can soak in their own bloodbaths and say it was Obama’s fault or some Hillary conspiracy.

      The one issue voters who sat out last time, the middle of the ground twats who thought their vote didn’t matter, the Palestinians who thought Kamala’s stance on Israel wasn’t strong enough… Those are the people who have to suffer enough to motivate them to not be so fucking indifferent to things they don’t fully understand.

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        IMO it’s not really the MAGA idiots you need to worry about. It’s the influential people in the republican party who are supporting Trump.

        You’re right that the stereotypical trump supporter can’t be dissuaded by economic hardship.

        However, the people that thought Trump was going to deliver them never before seen profits through de-regulation can very easily be dissuaded be economic hardship.

        An economic hole is forming, and if it’s deep enough and wide enough Trump will be unseated.

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        There’s a lot of folks who are either.:

        Vote republican by default, but a shock could change them.

        People who vote for or against the status quo based on how the feel things are going. Trump lost in 2020 in part due to people voting against whoever was in office. Hilary Clinton probably would have lost in 2020 had she won in 2016. Trump won in 2024 in part due to similar sentiment to vote out the current party after the inflation that was likely unavoidable consequence of not collapsing from COVID.

        Yes the MAGA cult is unwavering, and they are a huge factor in the GOP primaries and certainly an asset in the general election, but they are not enough to assure an election.

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          …presuming that quasi-representative elections happen in 2026 and 2028, which are by no means assured…

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      It’s unclear if it’s going to save america, considering it’s 1:1 out of hitler’s playbook. He crashed the economy with tarrifs before going all in.

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    There any sense on what would be good to stock up on now? When I’ve searched this, the advice is usually pretty worthless. Just advice indistinguishable from general prepper stuff. I’ve seen recommendations to stock up on things like flour, things that the US produces domestically in abundance. But some necessities are going to be more vulnerable to disruptions in shipments from China than others.

    Anyone find a good guide or have a sense of what basic household necessities are going to be most vulnerable to disruption of trade with China? I’m not concerned with things like consumer electronics right now, those are luxuries. I’m talking basic food and household staples. I don’t need the standard prepper list that’s meant to prepare you for grave natural disasters. What’s really needed is an analysis of precisely what necessities are most likely to be interrupted by this.

    Has anyone seen such a list, or have a sense for what necessities are most vulnerable here?

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      I think the tp during COVID was kind of a fluke. It could have been anything. Laundry detergent, some food product etc. TP was just what the news hung their hat on so it’s what everyone thought about when they went to the store.

      I’m personally buying rice, beans, and lots of spices to make some delicious meals and wait out the price shocks of food.

      Besides that, I mean what do you really need need when it comes to this stuff? I can think of a few things but it’s a very short list. Really we’re just going to have to ride it out and hope it doesn’t get bad bad

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        Supposedly the TP issue was that the supply chain was segmented out by office TP and home TP, can’t easily switch over easily but everyone was crapping at home.

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              Haha yeah I guess in that case I poop at work on company time too.

              I’m still in the group chat for the office nearest me and there was a LOT of outrage last week because the company mysteriously removed all of the bidets. I was outraged on their behalf!

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      Keep in mind that flour might be in abundance now, but if everyone in the country buys it, the supply might drop quickly.

      Apart from that, dried beans and lentils are probably a good source of nutrients, easy to store and last for a while.

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      If you’re just worried about the possibility of shortages and not being able to get food easily then stock up on things that will last a long time in the freezer, is something that you will regularly use regardless, and won’t break you to buy in bulk.

      Even with some of the prices already going up a little bit chicken is a good example, you can go by huge packs of it at Costco for a reasonable price still at the moment and other similar stores, vegetables like broccoli florets tend to hold up decently in the freezer for a little while (4-6months) and there multiple types of bread that deal well with being frozen and then later thawed out if you use bread a lot.

      Basically instead of trying to hyper optimize like some type of prepper just look at what you generally go through, evaluate what out of that is something that will last in a freezer for a good amount of time, and then bulk up on it and just continue using your food like you normally would. Worst case scenario you saved tiny bit of money by buying in bulk which usually comes with a slight savings. Best case scenario shortly after your bulk buying price is Skyrocket and you can try and ride it out off of your supplies.

      Avoid the toilet paper problem by getting a bidet, I spent money on the nice $300 one it has heated water which I like and now a single pack of toilet paper from Costco is like almost a Year’s worth of toilet paper because I only use it to help dry a little faster than the weird but hair dryer does so i use almost nothing

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      It’s impossible to know, the economy is complex. Even your example of flour may be affected. Many things aren’t done by hand, and if a machine used in producing flour needs parts that’s sourced from China, there could be a problem that disrupts production. Many things from China comes by ship there’s already been a significant drop in shipping from there. Remember it takes more than a month for a ship to cross the Pacific, and from there it may need to go by rail to where you are. If you live towards the east coast, it will take longer, and if there’s disruptions at the Panama Canal, there could be even more of a delay.

      Shipping was busy before the tarrifs, companies were frontloading and warehouses are full. But if people start panic buying, that’ll empt the warehouses really quick and it could be months before anything new gets shipped in and who knows what the prices will be?

      Some stuff that’s made in China might be fine if no one panic buys is. Some things made in USA there may be shortages or massive price increases because they need materials from other countries to manufacture them.

      So the generic prepper stuff is pretty much the best anyone can offer you. Make sure you have a month’s supply of everything you need, more if possible. You’d need to know the specifics of every industry’s material needs and also know what people might panic buy to be able to be more specific than that.

      This is why Trump’s broad tariffs are insane, it’s just pure economic chaos that’s going to hurt Americans more than it will hurt anyone else in the world.

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      My advice is if you need something electronic or mechanical and it’s expensive buy it now. I just replaced my hvac last month because I know this summer will be a mess. Most air conditioners are made in Asia. You want an e-bike, buy it now.

      The more parts something has the more likely it’s going to be affected by tariffs.

      Start growing some food if you can it’s a great way to be more resilient. I’d recommend buying things like coffee and tea and chocolate that are not easily grown in the US. There’s actually a pretty bad chocolate shortage right now I believe.

      Also for other stuff, buy used, in thrifts or on eBay. Not only are you recycling, most sellers are individuals rather than big corps. Also, if you have old stuff you are not using, it’s a great time to sell. My eBay sales are up 10% this year.

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          Any fellow bidet user should feel smug about it, I say in half jest. Not using a bidet is barbaric, I say in full seriousness.

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              We got a new toilet several months ago and it took some time for the new bidet to get here. Those couple weeks have never felt more disgusting and it removed absolutely any doubts about their superiority.

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                We have started a sort of bidet pyramid scheme and have converted so many people. Housewarming? Bidet! Christmas? Bidet! Birthday? That calls for a bidet!

                I must admit we’re a bit selfish in that we want to minimize the likelihood of bidetless crapping when we’re away from home.

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                  Come to find out, thanks to bidets thorough, frictionless cleaning they’re incredible for people who suffer from hemorrhoids. They’re really hygienic and beneficial and everyone should just get on board already.

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                  There’s travel options that are a bit like using one of those picnic ketchup bottles. But if you’re like me, you want to blast your ass with a pressure washer and a squeeze bottle just won’t cut it. Some people suggest using a travel water pik but I haven’t tried it myself.

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        I agree.

        90% of toilet paper is apparently domestically produced in the USA.

        Doesn’t matter. The shortage wasn’t rational then and it won’t be rational this time. It will just be the first thing people hoard.

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    I’m living the dream with individually wrapped quilted 3-ply tp rolls and $1.75/doz eggs. Current version of the us sucks balls.

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      This probably won’t be a starvation situation. This will be a supply crunch for all the cheap shit at Walmart and Target that Americans love.

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        Have no fear, Classico Pasta sauce should fare just fine, because their main ingredient is now water! Also now that it’s the main ingredient, they can just dial it up as much as they want without it moving up the list anymore!