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    That’s okay, the GOP will mock the “Democrats” for repeatedly having an un-democratic primary election.

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        You’re all living in a bubble and it won’t help you win unless you’re prepared to face the reality. You will need to be able to answer to the conservatives when they call out this valid point.

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      Real leftist unity right here. Either way it’s gonna be 10 times more interesting than biden vs trump.

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        It was a big deal, but his injury was minimal and there is no flashy politcal reason for the attack. The murder of the crowd is just background noise in our gun soaked politics.

        The kid had deep depression and was looking for a big target of either party to “suicide by cop.” The lack of a manifesto or an outward politcal lean, regardless of his conservative roots, makes it just a weak story.

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    If there’s anyway to convince him not to run that’d be wonderful. There are many Maga folks that emulate him but I don’t think they’re nearly as likely to be able to actually pull off a coup.

    Granted, it’s a fucking long shot that he’d listen to anyone.

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    Trump doesn’t care about the responsibility of being president. He likes the power and prestige of it.

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    Again, for the record, Peter Cooper is the record holder for oldest Nominee. Trump is second and Biden is third(albeit Biden is still older by the Reagan metric of end of office if Trump ends up losing or dies midway through). If you wanna say oldest REPUBLICAN ever go for it, that’s a far safer claim that’s not made incorrect thanks to Peter Cooper or vulnerable to debating the exact definition like Biden is(like he was A Nominee in the primaries, he just didn’t become THE Nominee). Also making this argument makes the ‘Biden should resign’ thing worse so, maybe hold off on that. There’s plenty of legitimate anti-Trump arguments that can be expressed as simple factual statements. Trump is rapist. No need to get into the age shit

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      How about Trump is the oldest nominee of any major political party? Would that be accurate?

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          He was nominated by the Greenback party, (third party) running against the Democrat and Republican nominees. He had less than 1% chance to win according to his wiki. I’d say that no matter how fuzzy the definition of major party is, the Greenbacks weren’t that.

          He sounds like he was an intelligent person who was concerned with social justice, especially for the native tribes.

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          Mostly true. You could argue if Major Primary Contenders should be counted(Top 3 would be unchanged) and Biden is still the older President, Trump would have to win and make it to his 4th and final year to beat that. Reagan issue, people debated the definition back in 2016 too.

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            Considering they said nominee, not major party, I think maybe major party nominee should not be counted.

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      The reason for the push on age, I feel, is that the trump campaign has gotten his followers chanting the issue for a month. The talking heads got the sheep saying it, and if the sheep hear the same problem with trump there is already a mental framework that was heavily pushed by their trusted sources. The back peddling and justifications can cause voter apathy. That’s the goal for both parties this time, as if you back trump you can’t think your way out of it and if you don’t you can’t think your way in. I feel the theme of the 2024 election is “your guy sucks, you should stay home.”

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        Just maybe hold off then, if Biden fucking croaks or something it’ll make the Democrats look worse for not taking their guy’s age seriously. Make sure he’s fine and not COVIDous for a few days

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          Democrats have been concerned with his age, it was being taken seriously, hence the calls for him to pass the torch. I think his age was being taken seriously. While he was the presumptive nominee, he would have had my vote because I believe Trump should never ever be allowed to serve again. I’ve said I’d have voted for a dead frog before I’d vote for Trump and that wasn’t a joke.

          I don’t think it’s hypocrisy to support the candidate you have been given, until he isn’t the candidate any longer.

          I do see your point; I believe that it is the perception of many outside the Democrat party.

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    Because he IS too old. Biden did the right thing. Selflessly put the country before himself and listened to his party. I don’t think Trump would ever have enough morals or integrity to do that in a million years unfortunately. So we’ll have to beat the old loon and his band of circus freaks at the polls, again.

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      Biden was never supposed to run for a second term, and then dragged his feet until the very last minute. The selfless thing would’ve been to step aside for someone younger before the race began

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          Not that I’m suggesting that this was intentional or that he did right to wait, but there are a few upsides. Trump and the Republicans were fully prepared and frothing to take on that blubbering old man from that last debate, but now they’re actually going to make a case for Trump over a (hopefully) real contender. And many Democrat voters went from feeling defeated and apathetic, potentially enough to not even bother voting, to being charged with a second chance and a (again, hopefully) more exciting candidate to support. If Biden had declared his intention not to run again before the primaries, the Republicans would have had much longer to prepare and pick apart someone who wasn’t such an easy target, and Dems would have been infighting over the nuances of a dozen candidates and pissed off at each other. And, if Harris is the presumptive nomination, for better or worse, the knee jerk reaction from the Right will probably be to play up the racist and sexist angles, which should drive moderates away from the right, not away from Harris.

          It’s all conjecture, but I only see this as a net positive compared to where we were yesterday.

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            More importantly imo: it put Biden and the Dems in the news and overshadowed the attempted assassination. Which kept its new cycle short and put the dems back on top. Trump hates being out of the news, and was right that the media wants him back because they loved the numbers he provided. The DNC should make a circus out of this to keep it in the news and with constant breaking news events. It’s stupid, and I hate it, but it would help them win.

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            I mean, 5d chess if true.

            but that would be a dangerous, stupid game - and we know they would never do that, right? right?

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              its more of a mr bean dodging a certain death by finding a penny after wandering into a closed off area scenario, but I’ll take it.

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          agreed, never should have tried for the second bite.

          however… dems now have an opportunity to own the news cycle from here until the election. if they do even a halfway decent job, we start trending from “narrow loss” -> “political landslide”.

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            I don’t think all the messaging in the world can fix the reality that Biden hasn’t improved material conditions of the people who voted for him in 2020, or even gone to the mat fighting for them.

            The only things he’s really gone around congress or the SCOTUS for is to deny more asylum seekers and give more weapons to Israel and Ukraine.

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              He absolutely has. We’re getting public transit built out. Caps on overdraft fees. Capped the price of insulin. Invalidated most non-compete clauses. Oh, and he didn’t encourage his supporters to attack the Capitol Building and hang Mike Pence.

              Oh, and he didn’t get a bunch of Americans killed by Covid because he cared more about the stock market than people.

              I’d also like to see Ukraine not fall to Russia.

              That’s just what I can name of the top of my head. He was a better president than Obama.

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                We’re getting public transit built out

                Nothing around me except wider highways, nor anyone I know. Unless the brightline is part of that, which is nice, but doesn’t compete with airfare and driving.

                Caps on overdraft fees

                lmao just get rid of them, people who have no money don’t need less penalties, they need no penalties. There is not a “medium overdraft fees” constituency who will vote against the dems if they get rid of overdraft fees.

                Capped the price of insulin

                See previous response. If you have the power to cap it, you have the power to make it free.

                he didn’t encourage his supporters to attack the Capitol Building and hang Mike Pence.

                Stop trying to make trump’s army of divorced Jet Ski dealers sound cool. Most Americans hate congress and Mike Pence.

                Oh, and he didn’t get a bunch of Americans killed by Covid because he cared more about the stock market than people.

                He literally ended the covid protections, told people not to wear masks, and a bunch of Americans did receive long-term injury or death from covid before they stopped counting.

                I’d also like to see Ukraine not fall to Russia.

                Because of our actions, Ukraine will never be safe within our lifetimes. Every bomb we send is a bad day for someone, statistically mostly civilians. Any stance except peace as soon as possible demonstrates that you care less about the lives of the actual people living in Ukraine than you do supporting imperialism.

                We could have had peace with similar terms to what we can get now two years ago, and millions would be alive and in their homes right now. But instead we decided to fight Russia to the last drop of Ukrainian blood.

                He was a better president than Obama.

                The patron saint of drones, who halved black wealth to bail out the banks? The deporter-in-chief who paved the way for Trump? That’s not the flex you think it is.

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                  Besides everything else being nonsense, every word about Ukraine is a lie because Putin explicitly NEVER wanted peace, he wants all of Ukraine and just like with Crimea he intends to take it bit by bit. Ukraine are the ones who chose fight, and you want to abandon them so Russia can occupy them and kill all the resistance under your watch, just like they’re doing in all the regions they already occupied and control. That would spill MORE blood than convincing Russia they will lose the conflict and lose all land.

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                  Back to back to back garbage takes lmao. Spare us your sanctimonious ‘improving things is unworthy of praise because they didn’t immediately make it perfect’ line of reasoning. It serves only to cause inaction and infighting. I’d much rather some improvement rather than no improvement.

                  By the way, don’t act like the Ukrainians don’t have a right to defend themselves, and don’t act like this isn’t an existential conflict for them. If you’re so worried about condemning imperialism, then maybe you should take a look at what Russia’s revanchist land grab here would be called, and then consider if maybe we should support the little guy so that they don’t get bowled over by an imperialist power looking to take back the glory days.

                  Anyways, nice bait.

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                Yeah, Biden invested in long term improvement for the first time in a long time. Yeah it’s not paying out immediately, we’re struggling in part because we kept expecting immediate returns. It’s gonna stay a bit rough for a little while longer but it’s stabilizing with hope on the horizon.

                Or we could cash out our savings again…

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              the current reality is not the future reality - thats their sell, basically obama “hope-ishness”. personally, I think it can work to keep trump out of office. this is a generational moment and the dems have it on their side.

              so, with luck, we get to reject trump and, depending on the turnout, watch where progressives settle around.the seat of power.

              between the dems and republicans, they have whittled down progressive representation, but its still there.

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                The real powerplay if Trump loses would be to pass an amendment setting a maximum age to run for president. Maybe tie it to retirement age. Old enough to receive social security, too old to run. Ideally you make that apply to all political offices, but I’m not that optimistic. Not that I think there’s a snowballs chance in hell of this actually happening as that would be a sane and sensible thing to do and therefore antithetical to everything our current crop of politicians stand for.

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                  dream big dreams.

                  if we manage to hobble past this brush against the mirror, then cool. maybe we don’t like the monster after all.

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                thats their sell, basically obama “hope-ishness”

                That works when you’ve had 8 years of Bush and are campaigning on free healthcare, ending the wars, federal legalization of cannabis. It works when you’ve had 4 years of Trump and everyone thinks the democrats will defund the police, provide free healthcare and college, abolish ICE, codify roe, pack the court, etc. Then when you fail to do any of that, you get the shit kicked out of you 2 years later.

                The dems cannot campaign on hope when they’ve demonstrated that they will not give the people what they want.

                This isn’t a messaging problem, it’s a “triangulating yourself to be 2 inches left of republicans and then acting surprised when your base doesn’t show up” for 30+ years problem.

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                  How much of that was blocked in some way by the reps? Every time the peanut gallery chimes in with “what did Dems ever get accomplished?” they never provide the required addendum that reps are obstructionists.

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                  many of biden’s appointees such as his NLRB pick are better than the last 3 democrats.

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                  agreed. the Democrats have been abusive. cant really do anything about that until we have a better nomination, funding and voting system.

                  trump is a time dilation machine. the closer we get to him the shorter my horizon gets. keeping him away from the near dictatorial powers the supreme court just sanctioned is my primary objective.

                  I (and perhaps you) and many others should remember that the age we grew in defined us. the younger see things a little differently

                  I am just tryng to make enough space between the ancient vampires and our kids to allow them to have a say in their future.

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                Whoever the candidate is, they have to avoid talking about Israel and use vague language on the issue. If they come out swinging for Israel I think it would not be a good look.

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                  No messaging or surrogate can have a good answer to “why haven’t you already done it?”

                  If instead of vaguely suggesting there might be a ceasefire sometime in the future if the dems remain in power, they stopped all arms shipments to Israel and sanctioned them until all Palestinians are granted equal political rights and right-to-return, you wouldn’t be asking yourself “How do I dress up support for an ongoing genocide”, you’d be telling people “We ended apartheid”

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              Supporting unions so they got their demands for better conditions through, student debt forgiveness, everything his FTC appointment has been doing to fight monopolies, etc

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        I honestly wonder if it was always the plan to waste the GOPs money on a campaign against Biden up until the nomination was locked in. Biden did say he’d be a 1 term president after all. The move makes Biden come off as the better person, makes room for a (slightly) younger, far more capable and progressive candidate, and wasted a ton of the GOPs effort and money. I’m truly hopeful that not only will Harris win, but due to all the shit slinging going on in the house and Senate, the left wins back a ton of seats making it so Harris’s term is as effective as possible. I’m 90% sure most seats in the house are up for grabs this coming vote.

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        I think most people had no idea he was significantly declining, hence the astonishment at the debate. And some people around him seem to have been encouraging the denial (or worse). I’m unclear if he was doing better many months ago before primaries.

        I can’t imagine how insulated and reliant on advisors and other employees the president becomes. Quickly surrounded by people who have no interest in being the bearer of bad news. Probably akin to billionaires, and we see what they mutate into (some kind of Musk-like creature).

        I’m so relieved that Biden was able to come to this painful decision, even if it was late. On the bright side, at least there’s less time for the GOP to smear the new nominee. And no more televised convention for them to host the lies for free.

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          There was a significant effort to hide Biden’s disability. The upper echelons in the Dem party have a lot to answer for.

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            You think the Repubs are ever gonna even put in any effort to hide Trumps disability?

            Cos frankly, it’s starting to feel like it doesn’t matter when it’s their king. what are your thoughts? Does trump suffer from entropy like the rest of us?

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              It’s one of those things, strategy. If I point out an obvious flaw in the Dem’s candidate, it doesn’t follow that the opposition is superior. Trump can rot in hell for all I care. I don’t give a tin shit about his plan or strategy. I just want the best person the Dems can find to take him down. Pretty simple really.

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                But you realise that having discussions like that on open public forums just legitimises the particularly twisted viewpoints of maga people then… Surely.

                There are only gonna be 2 people (realistically) in the race if you truly care about what you claim… Then fuck no do the dem party not have shit all to answer for… not when you compare them to maga.

                And like you said. Strategy. That’s all thats important for Americans right now.

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                  For goodness sake. It’s not just the MAGA lunatics. The whole world saw the debate. People like you are asking us to disbelieve our own eyes. Being a realist doesn’t make you an enemy.

                  Anyway, chill, the problem has been resolved and the orange ape is going down. Unity is the watchword. The only old fluck in the race in Trump.

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                  Don’t know what you are talking about. I think that the issue is now resolved. They just left things on hold for too long.

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          And everyone should have foreseen the age problem with Biden running a second term…

          I think most will agree, dnc should have started pushing another candidate the week after jan6.

          Biden himself ran on being one term.

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    Like CNN is ever going to mention trumps age or any doubts about his mental capacity. They were bought out years ago.

    If you ever hear a right winger whine about CNN smack them in the face for being so ungrateful. They carry trump water all day, every day.

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      Shit, NPR made a noticeable shift rightward during (and since) Trump’s presidency due to some perception of having a liberal bias for simply stating the factual news.

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        I think it really depends on your station. I noticed a pretty big whiplash effect sometime around 2018 where they started really pushing back on pro-Trump guests in a way which they hadn’t done previously. Recently they seem to actually be pulling fewer punches, straight up calling Trump out for telling lies (rather than just “mistruths” or “dishonesty”). This morning they called out a Trump SEC appointee who was questioning if Harris could inherit Biden’s money. They seem to go back and forth depending on what specifically is in the news cycle.

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      They need an external enemy to hate. CNN and the rest of the “mainstream media” is one of those. They could grant Trump whatever he wanted, and they would still attack because that is CNN’s only purpose in their headspace.

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    I kind of fear what comes next after Trump (he is old and I can’t imagine him serving a full term).

    1. Can Trump transfer his cult to a successor with a mere endorsement and forever continue a cycle of scrambling to vote for this “last” democrat.
    2. His cult fizzles out and the Republican party splits support over multiple candidates.
    3. A person like DeSantis (less of a narcisstic idiot and more a true representive of Republican hatred) takes over and is worse than Trump.
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      Based on what my true-crime cult obsessed friend has said on the matter, option 2 is probably the most likely; though the party at large will always rally behind whoever the nominee is, because that’s how Republicans operate.

      DeSantis already tried to court the cult of Trump, and he failed because these cults of personality are entirely fixed around their leader. As my buddy described it, it’s not like a hydra where you can cut the head off and the cult keeps going. Once the leader is gone, they fizzle out. Even in the case of endorsing a successor, I can’t imagine the group having the same kind of following for the same reason - without Trump, the Flavor-Aid sours. There will be new leaders, but they’ll have to work to sway the core voters in the way that Trump has. And the Flavor-Aid is a perfect metaphor, because Trump sounds exactly like Jim Jones according to my friend.

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        That makes alot of sense. However, I’m worried the Republicans reliaze there are better candidates that represent “their morals”. So maybe not DeSantis but someone closer. They also will have to vote for someone.

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        This is the first time in the wild that I have seen someone correctly mention “Flavor-Aid” instead of “Kool-Aid” in reference to Jim Jones.

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        If anything, after Trump, he’ll be revered within the Republican party for years like Reagan was. WWTD “What Would Trump Do?” will become their new litmus test for whether a candidate is worthy or not. Republicans will try to show off their credentials of how aligned they were to “Trump’s values”.

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      I can’t see Trump being the sort to try to build something beyond himself. I don’t think he could see the point of trying to cultivate a successor; and even if he did, I think he would see them as potential competition - he’d likely try to sabotage them, if anything.

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      Trump has none of the admirable qualities of someone who’s overcome a mental disability. He oozes neurotypical privilege.

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        I mean… is extreme malignant narcissism considered neurotypical?

        I kind of hope not.

        He oozes wealth privilege (even if he doesn’t have much left). Allows him to behave however he pleases.

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          He doesn’t have extreme narcissism. That’s a social disability. Does Trump look like his social faculties are impaired to you? His cognitive faculties are because of his dementia, but he’s as charismatic as anyone, much as I hate to admit it. He’s neurotypical.

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            A “social disability”? Is that from the DSM-5? I’ll save you a quick Google: no. Even if it was, so what?

            It’s not a one or the other thing… There is zero chance of you ever convincing me that Donald Trump is not a narcissist. Maybe you’re too young to remember the 90s, but this man has always been this way and his extreme, malignant narcissism has been a common theme for 40+ years.

            I have never, once in my life, heard/saw Trump speak and thought, “this man has charisma.” Sorry, just no. He just says the things the lowest common denominator wants to hear. If your foolish enough to confuse that with genuine charisma then I don’t know what to say. Get out of the house more often.

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              11 months ago

              Trump says what the lowest common denominator wants to hear. The lowest common denominator doesn’t want to hear someone being visibly neurodivergent. Trump talks like a neurotypical. Like a privileged, white, racist asshole. He does not look like a hard working person who overcame a disability. Now stop complimenting him and realise he’s ordinary filth.

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        I know, I didn’t let the media sway me into believing he was some genius charismatic dictator. I just think the man keeps failing upwards but his time is running out.

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      Can Trump transfer his cult to a successor with a mere endorsement and forever continue a cycle of scrambling to vote for this “last” democrat.

      Trump cares about not going to jail and Trump in approximately equal amounts. No way he lets someone else take the wheel. If he somehow became president again he’d start looking at repealing the 22nd before he’d endorse anyone else.

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        That’s a great point. However, I woulf think that there is a legal point where a president is to old and becomes mentally or physically incapable of being a president. Basically, someone in government would fight back and say this is a massive risk for the country’s security.

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      1. If he passes it on to another shameless racist schoolyard bully con man, but really nobody matches up.
      2. If they were going to split, Donald should have been the limit. Actually, all Repubs will fall in line and vote for whomever their core voting base (far-right racists) wants. Their voting base just won’t be as fired up.
      3. Desantis doesn’t behave like a clown to get free airtime from all the networks. When he does get airtime, it’s for backfiring stunts like giving immigrants free vacations to Martha’s Vineyard with taxpayer money. IDK if that’s a winning strategy.
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        Yeah, the longest lasting fascist country was spain which collapsed into a republic with the death of Francisco Franco.

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      Cults of personality are never quite the same once the big personality passes. They tend to fragment, shrink, or otherwise fade away. Members may join other high control organizations, but they won’t be united.

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      He will never willingly let go of his control over his base. Trump doesn’t give a single fuck about the MAGA movement beyond the fact that it is his own personal army of zombie sycophants. His followers may be dogmatic about MAGA, but I can assure you that Trump himself is not. If he dropped dead tomorrow MAGA would instantaneously begin fizzling out, and it would fracture the Republican party.

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        The greatest gift trump could ever giver america is, when he loses the nomination in 2028, to run as a third party candidate. Hopefully he never lets go of his base.

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          Hopefully before he dies he convinces his base to give themselves the Heavens Gate treatment so they can catch the golden limousine to hell right along with him.

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    He’s always been too old to run. It’s completely ridiculous that he would go after his opponent for something that he is as well without a hint of irony.

    He could shame others for having a pot on their head while he has multiple pots on his head and his voters wouldn’t be able to see the farce.

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      It was always just about image. Trump has a bunch of other bad things to talk about and he doesn’t show age as a problem as clearly as Biden does. Not to say there haven’t been moments where Trump has had moments like Biden but the focus has always been on the other bad aspects of Trump. The reason they focus on it with Biden is because he doesn’t really have much else interesting going on for the media to focus on instead.

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        Watch an interview of Trump in the 80s, after 9/11, and anything that gets put out now. A lot more controlled in the 80s, far more coherent train of thought in the 2000s, and neither of those things now.

        He wasn’t any less of a terrible person back then, but the veneer hadn’t worn off.

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        Basically, my adhd brethern: Biden boring, but old and shows it. Trump not boring, just dumb, and shows age less often.

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        One big concern is he has golfers spine. That’s why it looks like he’s wearing a diaper full of shit when standing. It’s a serious concern as he may even need spinal surgery as bad as it looks. Has he even been checked by a spinal professional?